zraisin@gritty.UUCP (Emile Deen) (03/09/90)
Hi!, Does anyone know of a good comm package with integrated ZMODEM support? Right now I use PCPLUS (ProComm) and DSZ as an external protocol. When I exit to DSZ and return to PCPLUS, the screen is messed up. The only way to cure it is to get PCPLUS to erase the screen and redraw it by hitting the dialing directory or some other function that takes up the entire screen. I do some heavy duty modem communications, and I am interested in optimizing my modem/online time. I have Practial Peripherals 2400 baud MNP modem, and have found ZMODEM to be pretty good with it. Is there anything better? What is the current version of DSZ? What I really need is a good COMM package that integrates ZMODEM, but I like ProComm. Anyone know if a new version of ProComm is likely? H E L P ! ! ! ! ! ! Tanz in Advanz -Z Raisin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rutgers!gritty!zraisin |_ _S_u_p_e_r_ _A_m_a_z_i_n_ _ _C_i_n_n_a_m_o_n_ _R_a_i_s_i_n_ | deen@topaz.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _<___ _<_ _<_ _<_ _M_ _A_ _Y_ _ _ _T_ _H_ _E_ _ _ _ _P_ _R_ _E_ _Z_ _E_ _N_ _T_ _ _ _T_ _E_ _N_ _Z_ _ _B_ _E_ _ _ _W_ _I_ _T_ _H_ _ _ _Y_ _O_ _U_ _>_ _>_ _>_ _> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bsmith@rose.cis.ohio-state.edu (brentley r smith) (03/12/90)
If you use and like PROCOMM, i highly recommend TELIX. I switched from PROCOMM to TELIX several years ago for the very same reason, ZMODEM. TELIX has 12 internal protocalls including Sealink, Zmodem, and Ymodem-G. Most of TELIX's keystrokes are identical to PROCOMM and it has a "point and shoot" dialing bar if you wish to use it. It has many more bells and whistles that you may or may not want to use but all in all an excellent package. The most recent version is 3.12 and is available from most BBS's around the country. Brentley Smith bsmith@cis.ohio-state.edu
mark@lakesys.lakesys.com (Mark Storin) (03/12/90)
In article <248@gritty.UUCP> zraisin@gritty.UUCP (Emile Deen) writes: >Hi!, > > Does anyone know of a good comm package with integrated > ZMODEM support? > Try Telix v3.11. It has Zmodem built in. Will even recognize when it's being sent zmodem packets and pop automatically into zmodem recieve (I love it). The program itself works much the same as Procomm but, at least subjectively, appears faster. You'll find it on various bbs's. -- Mark A. Storin Lake Systems, Milw., WI mark@lakesys.lakesys.COM
cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Stephen M. Dunn) (03/13/90)
In article <248@gritty.UUCP> zraisin@gritty.UUCP (Emile Deen) writes:
$ Does anyone know of a good comm package with integrated
$ ZMODEM support?
You might want to give Telix a try. The version, V3.11, has some
harmless bugs in its screen handling routines, but other than that it is
a good package, and it supports ZMODEM (including auto-upload detect).
You may be able to find a copy on a good local BBS, or alternatively
Simtel20 probably has it.
--
Stephen M. Dunn cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca
<std_disclaimer.h> = "\nI'm only an undergraduate!!!\n";
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"So sorry, I never meant to break your heart ... but you broke mine."brian@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Brian Hoffman) (03/13/90)
In article <25FC27BB.26617@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Stephen M. Dunn) writes: >In article <248@gritty.UUCP> zraisin@gritty.UUCP (Emile Deen) writes: >$ Does anyone know of a good comm package with integrated >$ ZMODEM support? > > You might want to give Telix a try. The version, V3.11, has some >harmless bugs in its screen handling routines, but other than that it is >a good package, and it supports ZMODEM (including auto-upload detect). >You may be able to find a copy on a good local BBS, or alternatively >Simtel20 probably has it. >-- >Stephen M. Dunn cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca > <std_disclaimer.h> = "\nI'm only an undergraduate!!!\n"; If you don't like the harmless bugs in Telix version 3.11, why don't you switch to version 3.12? It's been out for about 3 months and fixes all the bugs in 3.11. About 10 people responded with Telix 3.11, don't you people ever check for upgrades? Flame on, flame off, flame on, flame off. Brian
kabra437@pallas.athenanet.com (Ken Abrams) (03/13/90)
In article <248@gritty.UUCP> zraisin@gritty.UUCP (Emile Deen) writes: > > Does anyone know of a good comm package with integrated > ZMODEM support? > > What I really need is a good COMM package that integrates > ZMODEM, but I like ProComm. Anyone know if a new version > of ProComm is likely? Probably the most popular comm. program among the BBS set lately is Qmodem. I hear that the latest version has Zmodem built in. However..... If you like the look and feel of Procomm, then the easiest transition for you would probably be TELIX. It is VERY similar in appearance, operation and set-up to Procomm. It has built in Zmodem with auto-start on downloads. The only minus (for me anyway) is the script language which bears a striking resemblence to C. Datastorm is planning a new release of Procomm Plus but won't venture a guess as to WHEN. They plan to have built in Zmodem support...RSN. -- ======================================================== Ken Abrams uunet!pallas!kabra437 Illinois Bell kabra437@athenanet.com Springfield (voice) 217-753-7965
bob@sactoh0.UUCP (Bob F. Breedlove) (03/13/90)
I am using YAM right now. It is rather difficult to learn
because of its documentation. But, once you've learned it, there
isn't anything you can't do with it in communications. Since it is
from Omen, it, naturally, has integrated Zmodem. There are some
good scripts (dialing directories) out there that give the novice
some help. One of the best is PHOMAST5.ZIP. Give it a try, you'll
like it.
--
Bob Breedlove SYSOP: BOBsBBS (916/929-7511)
Author: CONFIG.EXE, RUN.EXE, CleanUp.EXE
pacbell!sactoh0!bobhv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE) (03/13/90)
In article <25FC27BB.26617@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Stephen M. Dunn) writes: >In article <248@gritty.UUCP> zraisin@gritty.UUCP (Emile Deen) writes: >$ Does anyone know of a good comm package with integrated >$ ZMODEM support? > > You might want to give Telix a try. The version, V3.11, has some >harmless bugs in its screen handling routines, but other than that it is I've seen now TWO messages in this list about Telix being version v3.11 but this is not the WHOLE truth. It is v3.12 ------------- And it is available here in Vaasa, Finland and probably also in Simtel. Our address in sig. -- ----------------Harri Valkama (hv@uwasa.fi)------------- University of Vaasa, Finland anonymous ftp site (128.214.12.3) PC and Mac directories
finn@mojo.UUCP (Finn Markmanrud) (03/13/90)
In article <78134@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> brentley r smith <bsmith@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes: > >If you use and like PROCOMM, i highly recommend TELIX. I switched from >PROCOMM to TELIX several years ago for the very same reason, ZMODEM. >TELIX has 12 internal protocalls including Sealink, Zmodem, and Ymodem-G. >Most of TELIX's keystrokes are identical to PROCOMM and it has a >"point and shoot" dialing bar if you wish to use it. It has many more >bells and whistles that you may or may not want to use but all in all >an excellent package. The most recent version is 3.12 and is available >from most BBS's around the country. I have used both Procomm and Telix, but dumped them both for Boyan a while back, and I am now looking towards "Telemate." Just got a copy of this yesterday, and it looks excellent. Check it out! These are both available on BBS's, and both of them support Zmodem. You can access Zmodem through Procomm using a utility called "Pcall," but why bother? There's enough good packages out there with this built in. -- +=====================+========================+=============================+ | Finn Markmanrud | finn@mojo.nec.com | "It can't happen here." | | (508) 264 8668 | Boxboro, MA | F.Z. | +=====================+========================+=============================+
cs121je@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (03/14/90)
I currently use the old public domain Procomm (2.4.3) but I also found
a public domain program called : hotkey-z.
Basically, in procomm, you can enter a dos shell, and run the program.
The program will have a menu allowing you to upload/download with
Z-modem, and it allows batch transfers. It's great, free, (well, it's
shareware, now that I think about it), & I haven't had a single
problem with it. Try it out!
Frank Wangmedici@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici) (03/16/90)
Actually, the current version of Telix is 3.12. The author seems to have corrected some of the mentioned bugs which made vt52/vt100 (and possibly others) unusable in the past. Telix 3.12 now does a very good job of emulating a DEC VT100 device. I haven't checked the other emulations. At the moment I am using DCA's CrossTalk for [MS-]Windows. Similar to Telix 3.1x, Crosstalk for Windows (generally called "Windex") also has built-in support for Zmodem transfers, and will automatically start a download upon receiving the start-up command string from the remote. Windex's terminal emulation, while limited, is faithful, including use of VT100 character sets. If you're not running MS-Windows, then Telix 3.12 is the choice; there are other packages, but none that are so easy to use while still being as reliable and powerful as Telix. However, if you are running Windows, than Crosstalk for Windows is the ONLY choice (at the present). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Medici - Rutgers/CCIS/Instructional MicroLabs | Disclaimer? Did I say Internet : medici@elbereth.rutgers.edu | something? Did someone Compu$erve : 74755,304 | listen? Worse, did some- Voice : (908) 932-2412 -or- (908) 932-5766 | one actually BELIEVE me? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Medici - Rutgers/CCIS/Instructional MicroLabs | Disclaimer? Did I say Internet : medici@elbereth.rutgers.edu | something? Did someone Compu$erve : 74755,304 | listen? Worse, did some- Voice : (908) 932-2412 -or- (908) 932-5766 | one actually BELIEVE me?
rossp@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Ross PORTER) (03/16/90)
In article <Mar.15.12.00.06.1990.27129@elbereth.rutgers.edu> medici@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici) writes: > [For plain DOS Telix 3.12 is your only ZMODEM choice] > [For MS-Windows, XTALK for Windows is your only ZMODEM choice] Windows users now have at least one other choice. WinQvt offers X/Y/ZMODEM, B+, Kermit and excellent vt100 emulation. Unicom 1.4 may have ZMODEM support as well. Both of these are probably available at Vassa (128.214.12.3), and are definitely available in WINAPA on Compu$erve. Ross Porter rossp@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca
hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE) (03/16/90)
In article <Mar.15.12.00.06.1990.27129@elbereth.rutgers.edu> medici@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici) writes: >Actually, the current version of Telix is 3.12. The author seems to >have corrected some of the mentioned bugs which made vt52/vt100 (and >possibly others) unusable in the past. Telix 3.12 now does a very >good job of emulating a DEC VT100 device. I haven't checked the other >emulations. >If you're not running MS-Windows, then Telix 3.12 is the choice; there And if you ARE running MS-Windows you can still use Telix in a window. That's what I do. Works just good. And you can use your favourite Windows applications at the same time. -- ----------------Harri Valkama (hv@uwasa.fi)---------------- University of Vaasa, Finland ftp site (128.214.12.3) PC & Mac directories ftp site (128.214.6.100) Atari ST directory
DOUG@YSUB.BITNET (Doug Sewell) (03/16/90)
I just got the Datastorm's newsletter (they're the people that put
out Procomm Plus - PCPLUS).
They have already stated that the next release of Procomm Plus
WILL have ZMODEM built in, and that was the number one enhancement
request.
Also, Procomm Plus will run in a window under Windows or Desqview.
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center,
Youngstown State University, Youngstown, OH 44555
E-mail: DOUG@YSUB.BITNET, DOUG@YSUB.YSU.EDU
>> 1. working software 2. on time 3. within budget (choose up to 2).d37645h@saha.hut.fi (Marko Kohtala) (03/19/90)
In article <1990Mar16.074302.19833@uwasa.fi> hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE) writes: >And if you ARE running MS-Windows you can still use Telix in a window. >That's what I do. Works just good. And you can use your favourite >Windows applications at the same time. Has any of you never seen Telemate? It is a terminal that includes a multitasking environment with editor, file viewer, back scroll buffer and some other things. Multitasking means you can be tranfering files while writing some document or message or reading some text files. The soon coming version (2.10?) has rather good vt102, vt52 and ANSI emulations. vt102 and vt52 both support line drawing symbols well even when they are double hight or width. ANSI supports also ANSI-music codes. Built in file transfer protocols are Zmodem, X/Ymodem in they various forms and names, CIS Quick B and ASCII. Kermit is missing, but installing external protocols is easy - you only cannot benefit from the multitasking when using them. It supports various video modes including EGA/VGA 25/26/27/35/43/50 line modes. For us scandinavian users the next version offers working ANSI/vt102 emulation even when we translate incoming [ to some other character. A good terminal in Windows is of course better, but the Telemate is the choise (mine anyway :) until one gets the good terminal and Windows. I have not seen it in Internet yet, but it is widely distributed in BBSes. It is shareware and worth more than it's price, US$40. --- * Via me - not on behalf of any organisation Marko Kohtala - INTERNET:d37645h@saha.hut.fi, mkohtala@otax.tky.hut.fi