[comp.sys.ibm.pc] 386-25 motherboards - mylex vs micronics

brh@uncecs.edu (Bobby R. Harris) (03/13/90)

i am in the process of putting together a 386-25Mhz machine.  i this
point i have not selected a motherboard and would like to get some
suggestions or comments from net users who have knowledge of the 
following boards:
	1)mylex mws386-25Mhz, 64k cache, award bios, 2 yr warrenty, 
	  full sized board with 8Meg onboard capability. SI=29.

	2)micronics 386-25Mhz, 32k cache, award, 1 yr warr, full size,
	  0M onboard - 8 Meg capability on 32 bit card. SI=31?

does either board have any significance advantage over the other?  why
does micronics appear to have a faster SI rating. what about memory
onboard vs the 32bit card?

it it makes any difference i am thinking of using:
	1)seiko 1440 with orchid pro designer plus
	2)scsi or esdi drive/controller

by the way mylex is 200-300.00 cheaper than micronics in most ads i have
seen. for what it is worth - Compuadd uses the micronics board. any
help will be greatly appreciated.

bobby harris
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jacksond@cica.cica.indiana.edu (Richard Jackson ) (03/13/90)

In article <1990Mar12.204511.11366@uncecs.edu> brh@uncecs.edu (Bobby R. Harris) writes:

>	1)mylex mws386-25Mhz, 64k cache, award bios, 2 yr warrenty, 
>	  full sized board with 8Meg onboard capability. SI=29.

>	2)micronics 386-25Mhz, 32k cache, award, 1 yr warr, full size,
>	  0M onboard - 8 Meg capability on 32 bit card. SI=31?

Just to throw caution to the wind.  In an article I read (PC Mag?) within the last 9 months or so.  AMI motherboards were superior to mylex or micronics in 
processing speed.

Also, I'd go with the SCSI instead of the ESDI interface.  It gives you more
options and connectivity.

marshall@wind55.seri.gov (Marshall L. Buhl) (03/14/90)

jacksond@cica.cica.indiana.edu (Richard Jackson ) writes:

>Also, I'd go with the SCSI instead of the ESDI interface.  It gives you more
>options and connectivity.

Before you commit to SCSI, make sure that the applications you will want
to run will support SCSI.  For instance, Microsoft will not guarantee
that Windows will work with SCSI.

Also, not all SCSIs are alike.  Make sure that the peripherals you want
will work with the SCSI host adaptor you choose.

I suggest you avoid SCSI until the SCSI manufacturers come to some
agreement about standards.  Unless you are much luckier than I, the
standard they settle on will differ from the one you buy.

Just MHO,
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emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) (03/14/90)

a reminder that there's plenty of good scsi info in the new group

	comp.periphs.scsi

might take a look.

--Ed
emv@math.lsa.umich.edu

leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) (03/16/90)

In article <1990Mar13.194214.10848@seri.gov> marshall@wind55.seri.gov (Marshall L. Buhl) writes:
>	<text deleted>     Unless you are much luckier than I, the
>standard they settle on will differ from the one you buy.

Sounds like you have been burned ... please let the net (or if you prefer 
email me) as I am considering a purchase of SCSI drives from fujitsu at cost 
... but maybe not ... 

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richc@vaxwaller.UUCP (Rich Commins) (03/20/90)

In article <1990Mar12.204511.11366@uncecs.edu>, brh@uncecs.edu (Bobby R. Harris) writes:
> following boards:
> 	1)mylex mws386-25Mhz, 64k cache, award bios, 2 yr warrenty, 
> 	  full sized board with 8Meg onboard capability. SI=29.
							 ^^^^^^

  I own a MI386-20 Mylex motherboard and with the cache on, the board
  does a consistant SI=31 speed.  Sometimes the cache misses and the
  board comes in at SI=23 but mostly runs at SI=31.  I would think that
  a 25 MHz board should run at least 25% faster.
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jmerrill@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Confusion Reigns) (03/21/90)

In article <4269@vaxwaller.UUCP> richc@vaxwaller.UUCP (Rich Commins) writes:
>  I own a MI386-20 Mylex motherboard and with the cache on, the board
>  does a consistant SI=31 speed.  Sometimes the cache misses and the
>  board comes in at SI=23 but mostly runs at SI=31.  I would think that
>  a 25 MHz board should run at least 25% faster.

Strange...My MI386-20 with 64K SRAM cache comes in consistently at SI 23.
Quarterdeck's Manifest program rates my memory at:

         First Meg
              Speed  PC/XT
Memory Area   K/Sec  Index
Memory Cache   6279  12.1
0000 - 9FFF    4995   9.6  (Conventional RAM)
A000 - B7FF    1050   2.0  (VGA Graphics & Mono)
B800 - BFFF     859   1.7  (VGA Color Text)
C000 - C5FF    4978   9.6  (Shadowed Video ROM)
C600 - C7FF    2693   5.2  (Unshadowed Video ROM)
C800 - C8FF    5013   9.7  (Shadowed Disk ROM)
C900 - CAFF    1580   3.1  (Unshadowed Disk ROM)
CB00 - F3FF    4991   9.6  (High RAM and Page Frame)
F400 - F7FF    2693   5.2  (Page Frame)
F800 - FFFF    5008   9.7  (Shadowed BIOS ROM)
    HMA        5013   9.7

(Cut and Paste between windows is handy...)

Is your cache faster than mine?