[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Gateway 2000 Computers

GOLDSTN@MAINE.BITNET (Michael E. Goldstein) (04/07/90)

i'd like to be able to tell of my experience with Gateway
computers, but I can only tell of my experience with their
sales staff.  I've had plenty of time to get friendly with
one salesman in particular. He has been polite, friendly and
helpful. However, he has been unable to provide me with
a computer.  I ordered the standard 386sx, color vga, 65megg
drive, 2 meg ram, computer, 4 weeks ago and was told today that it will
be another two weeks before I receive the computer. I hope its
worth the wait.
 
 
Michael Goldstein
goldstn@maine.bitnet

yjkim@milton.acs.washington.edu (Yong Kim) (04/08/90)

> helpful. However, he has been unable to provide me with
> a computer.  I ordered the standard 386sx, color vga, 65megg
> drive, 2 meg ram, computer, 4 weeks ago and was told today that it will
> be another two weeks before I receive the computer. I hope its
> worth the wait.

The salesman I contacted (Oh, I tried to talk any of their salesmen,
but after 5 phone calls, I yelled) was not that polite.  I tried to
reach him again later only to find that "He is off today" or "He is
with another customer".  From many promised callbacks, I got just only
one from the supervisor of the salesman I talked to.  Their
salespeople do not seem to be great.  But I can say that their
computers are, as the numerous people in this net have said, good.
Their quality control looks reasonable and most of their peripherals
are well-known brand.  My guess is that Gateway 2000 is overloaded but
tries to keep their quality control tight, while it costs the
customers' waiting time.  For some who can endure this humiliating
process, it's worth the wait.  For others (with extra cash), they can
go to other mail-order houses.

MHS108@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark Solsman) (04/09/90)

In article <2738@milton.acs.washington.edu>, yjkim@milton.acs.washington.edu
(Yong Kim) says:
>...There salespeople do not seem to be great.

I must totally disagree! There salespeople are fantastic! I have been "put
through" every time I called. Every time I call and no one is available, they
call back. These guys(and gals) are not afraid of toll calls. I also have a
super saleslady who not only gave me a good deal, but also called twice to let
me know wow my order is going, AND to tell me that they have a bigger tape
backup at a lower cost. How many places will honestly help you save money even
after the sale? (not yet assembled)  This is alot more than I could say about
USA Flex!

webb@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Thomas Webb) (04/11/90)

In article <90096.202211GOLDSTN@MAINE.BITNET> GOLDSTN@MAINE.BITNET (Michael E. Goldstein) writes:
>i'd like to be able to tell of my experience with Gateway
>computers, but I can only tell of my experience with their
>sales staff.  I've had plenty of time to get friendly with
>one salesman in particular. He has been polite, friendly and
>helpful. However, he has been unable to provide me with
>a computer.  I ordered the standard 386sx, color vga, 65megg
>drive, 2 meg ram, computer, 4 weeks ago and was told today that it will
>be another two weeks before I receive the computer. I hope its
>worth the wait.
> 
> 
>Michael Goldstein
>goldstn@maine.bitnet


Well, I ordered the same system five and a half weeks ago, and have
been treated to a decreasing level of politeness.  At first, I was
very impressed.  They returned my calls, quickly assigned me an
account rep., and sent me a copy of their warentee and a personalised
letter with an estimated ship date (March 26).  Well, I've been buying
computers on a fairly regular basis for the project here, and I'd
never seen service like this before--very impressive.  However, my
account rep. called on the 26th to say the the computer would be one
to two weeks delayed.  This was dissapointing, but not beyond the
pale, as Northgate had taken three weeks to ship us a computer in
early March and they cost a bunch more.  So, I gave my rep. a call on
the 2nd of April to see what was happening.  She was pretty short with
me and said, essentially, that they had said that it would take one to
two weeks more to ship and why was I wasting her time by calling after
only one week?  Well, anyone can have a bad day, so I waited a week
and tried to call Yesterday.  After four tries I finally got an
answer, but my rep. was on another line.  I wasn't in the office, so
I didn't leave a message, but waited untill this morning to call
again.  Well, I've been calling all morning, at least a dozen times,
and the line is ALWAYS busy.  Anyway, I don't know what is going on at
Gateway, but my feeling is that things are not good there;  the
service is getting worse, and as nearly as I can tell, they are not
delivering computers at all.  I see that I,ve run-on a bit, and I do
apoligise, but I'm more then a little put out with Gateway right now.

-tom
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gerry@cive.ri.cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) (04/11/90)

Just to throw in my $0.02.

My fiance needed a new computer for her work.  After some looking
around, we decided that the Gateway 200 386-20 machine a) fitted
her needs and b) was the most price effective solution on the
market.  We placed an order and were told that we would have the
machine in 2 weeks.  Two weeks later I called and was told of 
delays, but the machine did arrive shortly there after (I have
forgotten the exact details).  Every time I called, I was treated
courteously, although I did have a hard time getting through to
my customer service rep on occasion (but she did return my call).

I believe that due to their aggresive pricing, Gateway is having
a hard time meeting demand.  Also, since that are an OEM, they 
are at the mercy of their suppliers.  They should probably be
more realistic in their delivery quotes.

We have had no problems with the machine.  It is well built and
uses good components.  Two small gripes, however: 1) the version
of the vga utilities installed on the hard disk and those supplied
on the floppy disks were not the same, and 2) they supplied a
nifty program (I forgot the name, but it is an online ms-dos
manual), but for some reason, you can not install it using
its install program.

A last note: after all the talk about the latest version of the 
vga utilities software for the ATI card, I called Gateway to
get a copy of these.  My customer service rep didn't know what
I was talking about, but she put me on hold for a minute and
found out.  She said they would send the disks to me.  The next
day they arrived by FedEx.  That's service!
-- 
gerry roston, field robotics center
robotics institute, carnegie mellon university
pittsburgh, pennsylvania, 15213  (412) 268-6557
gerry@cive.ri.cmu.edu

MHS108@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark Solsman) (04/12/90)

Well, it's me again - the same person who couldn't say enough good things about
Gateway2000. I ordered My computer March 27 with an estimated shipping of Aprl
9. The 9th they called and said it would be out on Friday the 13. I called my
rep and she "was on another line", so I left a message. I called the next day
and talked to her. The first thing i asked was if she had gotten my message.
She said alot of people call and leave messages. Anyway, I did a little more
business and when I was done I asked her what was the week holdup. According to
Gateway2000 they have received a batch of monitors which were not up to their
specs. Shall I believe this?? I ended on the note of asking if my system will
be shipped on Friday. She told me the monitors are expected Friday or Monday.
  I want the truth!! Has anyone else ordered a computer (real) lately?

 Oh, my service rep was Anita - if anyone else has her, please letme know!

 Any my sales rep way Shelly - I would recommend her to everyone!


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 Mark Solsman, Pennsylvania State University, Scranton, Pennsylvania, USA

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webb@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Thomas Webb) (04/12/90)

In article <90101.134237MHS108@psuvm.psu.edu> MHS108@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark Solsman) writes:
>Well, it's me again - the same person who couldn't say enough good things about

>Gateway2000. I ordered My computer March 27 with an estimated shipping of Aprl
>
[grusome saga deleted :)]

Well, I responded to this thread yesterday and said that I too was
getting the run-around from Gateway and was having trouble getting
through to them on the 'phone.  However, this morning (Hawaii time) I
got a call from my service rep. (Christy Jones) who said that my
computer was shipped today.  I know, "it's in the mail" is the oldest
line in the book, but they did give me the UPS Blue tracking numbers
and I'm particularly willing to believe them since they have been
unusually careful, polite, and, I hope, honest over the 'phone in the
past.  Now, I'm not sure that all of this kindenss makes-up for the
fact that it took them the best part of six weeks to get the box out
the door, but it helps.  Anyway, the bottom line seems to be that they
are shipping computers.

-tom



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nts0302@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil (Bob Fisher) (04/12/90)

Gateway is shipping more than just computers....

In yesterday's mail I got a diskette from them and a letter saying that
many Gateway computers have been infected with viruses (no implication that
the virus came with the machine).  The diskette appears to have the
program scanv61 that scans for viruses and a cleanup program to remove
viruses from your system.  I've only done a directory list and haven't
executed any of the programs yet.

This was unsolicited and sent FedEx.  How many other vendors do this?

-- 
Bob Fisher
US Defense Logistics Agency Systems Automation Center
DSAC-TSX, Box 1605, Columbus, OH 43216-5002     614-238-9071 (AV 850-9071)
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