[net.music] NET.MUSIC.CLASSICAL GARBAGE

wade@nmtvax.UUCP (04/28/84)

>	I quit net.music and net.records since all the articles were
>	about rock, and not about music.

	Listen buddy, if your cocky enough to say that rock isn't
	music, then why don't we have a new newsgroup for you and
	your friends, net.dumbshit?

	Kiss my baroque!

wade@nmtvax.UUCP (05/01/84)

  PLEASE, NO MORE GARBAGE ABOUT NET.MUSIC.CLASSICAL, WE'VE ALREADY
GOT THE STUPID NEWSGROUP SO STOP POSTING VOTES FOR IT!!!

jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (05/02/84)

>   PLEASE, NO MORE GARBAGE ABOUT NET.MUSIC.CLASSICAL, WE'VE ALREADY
> GOT THE STUPID NEWSGROUP SO STOP POSTING VOTES FOR IT!!!

Amen! And no more stupid flames about its existence or "snobs", either!

Thanks to Rich and others, we now have an easy way to tell if you're a
snob or not: Do you like classical music? Will you contribute to
net.music.classical (regardless of how you felt about its creation in the
first place)? Then it's easy - you're a snob. Enjoy it. I am.

I notice that once again some ignoramus has advanced the curious theory
that "classical" music somehow just ended about 1900. Will he ever
wake from his blaster-induced stupor? 

Another rhetorical question: Anybody else besides me notice the contradiction
between epithets like "wimp" and "pansy" and the terrible defensive furor
these supposed weaklings aroused? My, my.


      classical snobs arise...you have nothing to lose but your detractors -

					Jeff Winslow


"Whew - what a day. Guess I'll get out my old Tom Lehrer..."

nxs@fluke.UUCP (05/04/84)

Jeff: So you want I should shut up and quit posting to net.music just
because I have my own news-group to bore? WELL THEN -- I WILL. Right this
minute. I'm not going to post another word to your lousy net-group, so
there. And there is no way you can change my mind. Thats right, I'm leaving
and I'm not going to say another word about it. No-sir-ee not from me. Thats
it, silence from now on. You'll have to find someone else to berate and
ridicule, as for me, I'm leaving, right now. See that door, well I'm opening
it and heading out. I don't want to have another word of discussion, I'm
tired of talking to you. From now on, you won't hear another peep, not even
a murmer, not even so much as a wisper, I Won't even ..................................................................................................................................................................................................   


			     Bruce (I am not jeff winslow) Golub

timw@umcp-cs.UUCP (05/04/84)

Maybe we should have a seperate newsgroup for Rich Rosen, called
appropiately enough net.music.rlr  

Maybe then will the newsgroup go back to normal level of activity.

-- 

Tim Wicinski			  
University of Maryland

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rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (05/08/84)

> Maybe we should have a seperate newsgroup for Rich Rosen, called
> appropiately enough net.music.rlr  
> Maybe then will the newsgroup go back to normal level of activity.
-- 
> Tim Wicinski			  
> University of Maryland

Oh, Timmy.  Are you just sore because you came in second in the punk
trivia quiz? :-)

Your idea is not even an original one.  ihuxf!ajs (Al Sawyer) had proposed
net.music.rosen during the last round of music separatism discussions.
He apologized for proposing a newsgroup dedicating to hurling insults at
an individual netnews user.

And what's more you miss my point about newsgroup separatism.  Having
net.music.rlr would add to that isolationism that net.music.classical
started.  A quick survey of net.music.classical shows that many people
(including myself) post to net.music.classical who also post to net.music
proper.  In fact, ANYTHING I post to net.music.classical that is of
general interest is posted to net.music as well, which is more than I
can say for the net.music.classical snitheads who think discussions on
absolute pitch are only for those interested in "serious" music.  And this
is the very problem I was afraid would crop up:  classical isolationists
posting articles on generic subjects that would be of interest to all
music lovers (though from their narrow perspective they might not think so).
By the same token, articles that may be of interest to classical music lovers
are posted to net.music only, perhaps because a question is asked from a
rock or jazz perspective that might be expanded to encompass all musics.
Since those who subscribe to net.music.classical ONLY do so by clear choice,
I say it's their loss when they miss such articles in net.music, and the
hell with them.  But when those who subscribe to net.music but not to
net.music.classical (it's just as much their right not to like classical music
as it is other people's right to like it) miss generic articles posted only to
net.music.classical, that's not a voluntary omission.  They are forced to
miss that discussion, forced to miss the chance to contribute to it and/or to
get something out of it.  The obvious solution:  post all articles to both
newsgroups.  Which leads to the question "why have two newsgroups at all?".

And for those who say "we didn't want net.music.classical because we're snobs,
we wanted it because not enough of the traffic in net.music was of interest
to us."  WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THE MAJORITY (OR EVEN A SUBSTANTIAL PERCENTAGE)
OF THE ARTICLES IN ANY NEWSGROUP IS OF INTEREST TO ANY INDIVIDUAL PERSON?????
Do you honestly think I read net.music to see opinions on Michael Jackson's
possible hermaphroditism or about how Rush are the greatest musical artists
since yesterday at noon??  Remember the axiom "90% of everything is shit"?
Well, for each person out there, there's a different 10% of the whole of
the universe that's non-fecal.  So if you  want to see newsgroups where
the vast majority of entries adheres to your view of the world, you're leaning
towards net.music.timw, if anything.  The newsgroup net.music was designed as
a place for ALL music lovers to speak out, with all their diverse points of
view.  If you're unable to share a newsgroup with all those others (because
your valuable time is somehow worth more than my or someone else's valuable
time such that it warrants a separate group), then you are indeed a snob.
At the very least...  (Who's game for net.politics.* ...)
-- 
Now I've lost my train of thought. I'll have to catch the bus of thought.
			Rich Rosen    pyuxn!rlr

timw@umcp-cs.UUCP (05/13/84)

> Maybe we should have a seperate newsgroup for Rich Rosen, called
> appropiately enough net.music.rlr  
> Maybe then will the newsgroup go back to normal level of activity.
-- 
> Tim Wicinski			  
> University of Maryland

>Oh, Timmy.  Are you just sore because you came in second in the punk
>trivia quiz? :-)

>Your idea is not even an original one.  ihuxf!ajs (Al Sawyer) had proposed
>net.music.rosen during the last round of music separatism discussions.
>He apologized for proposing a newsgroup dedicating to hurling insults at
>an individual netnews user.

No, I'm not upset and I don't see why we don't do it. It would save
my 'n' key a lot of use. 

I could go off and yell and scream and holler about you losy writing
and how it bores the hell out of me, but I don't have all that free
time like you do. And if I keep going on, I could set myself up
for some people to punce on me and get their little kicks from
flaming about my style. So i'll shut up and go off rewrite vnews
so everthing from pyuxn!rlr will be skipped as quick without looking 
at it. Its probably better than reading them anyway.

-- 

Tim Wicinski			  
University of Maryland

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