cjsgro@watdragon.UUCP (Carlo Sgro) (03/31/86)
I just watched a CNN discussion program called "Crossfire" that featured Frank Zappa and some right-winger talking about the evils of rock music. Since I came in late, I couldn't tell what the name of Zappa's organization (since it seemed from the way that he was talking that he was representing some organization that he helped organize) was. I would like to find out more about it. Could someone tell me something about this?
lp102918@sjuvax.UUCP (palena) (04/21/86)
In article <911@vortex.UUCP> lauren@vortex.UUCP writes: >There's nothing wrong with being straightforward and honest about your >opinions on talk shows and in congressional testimony. However, Frank >is so completely unwilling to bend even slightly in such situations >that the end effect of what he's doing is damaging his own cause. >He may have the benefit of knowing he's been totally true to himself >in his testimony ("won the battle") but the "war" may be lost as a result. ...waitasecond!!! Is Frank Zappa really intent on swaying peoples' views on this PRMC scene??? You gotta be kiddin'!! I thought he went to those hearings just to cut up and mess around and generally expose them for the farce that they really were.I didn't believe he was actually going to make himself a "spokesman for the cause" or anything mindless like that!!!... ...Say it ain't so!!!!... Larry Palena
dsr@uvacs.UUCP (Dana S. Richards) (04/29/86)
> ...waitasecond!!! Is Frank Zappa really intent on swaying peoples' > views on this PRMC scene??? You gotta be kiddin'!! I thought he > went to those hearings just to cut up and mess around and generally > expose them for the farce that they really were.I didn't believe he > was actually going to make himself a "spokesman for the cause" or > anything mindless like that!!!... > > ...Say it ain't so!!!!... > > Larry Palena It is so. I believe it was Mencken who said "One horselaugh is worth a thousand syllogisms." Frank has for a very long time used satire to make his point, sometimes in very irritating ways. But you should never assume that he is aloof; and this PRMC thing has a direct impact on his ability to make and distribute his music. I don't feel he went to the hearings to "cut up". He was very deliberate and prepared. He did make some remarks, though, that struck the congressmen as out of place, which undercut his message.
jablow@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Eric Robert Jablow) (05/02/86)
In article <410@uvacs.UUCP> dsr@uvacs.UUCP (Dana S. Richards) writes: > >> ...waitasecond!!! Is Frank Zappa really intent on swaying peoples' >> views on this PRMC scene??? You gotta be kiddin'!! I thought he >> went to those hearings just to cut up and mess around and generally >> expose them for the farce that they really were.I didn't believe he >> was actually going to make himself a "spokesman for the cause" or >> anything mindless like that!!!... >> >> ...Say it ain't so!!!!... >> >> Larry Palena > >It is so. >I believe it was Mencken who said "One horselaugh is worth a thousand >syllogisms." Frank has for a very long time used satire to make his >point, sometimes in very irritating ways. >But you should never assume that he is aloof; and this PRMC thing >has a direct impact on his ability to make and distribute his music. > >I don't feel he went to the hearings to "cut up". He was very >deliberate and prepared. He did make some remarks, though, that >struck the congressmen as out of place, which undercut his message. Frank Zappa is the wrong type of person to try to persuade a congressional committee while undercutting his message. Official Washington is just too scared of people like him to understand him. Other people can do something like that and get away with it. The most famous example is Casey Stengel, who blitzed a Senate committee for 45 minutes, destroying its decorum, entertaining the audience, and left very subtle hints and ideas about the committee's proposed legislation that was quite useful in its later deliberations. See *Stengel, His Life and Times*, by Robert Cramer. The best comment on this was Mickey Mantle's: "My views on this situation is about the same as Casey's." Respectfully, Eric Robert Jablow MSRI ucbvax!brahms!jablow