[comp.sys.ibm.pc] How many PCs and Macs

jamesth@microsoft.UUCP (James THIELE) (05/02/90)

In article <361@newave.UUCP> john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III) writes:
>In article <28343@ut-emx.UUCP> mike@ut-emx.UUCP (Mike O'Donnell) writes:
>> Has anyone seen published numbers of PCs, clones and Macintoshes
>> installed worldwide?
>
>Off the top of my head, there are about 15-Million MS/PC-DOS machines
>in the US.  Since this number is at least 2 years old, I would suspect
>that it is approaching 20-million.

Currently about 30 million Messy DOS compat. machines world-wide.

john@newave.UUCP (John A. Weeks III) (05/03/90)

In article <54431@microsoft.UUCP> jamesth@microsoft.UUCP (James THIELE) writes:
> Currently about 30 million Messy DOS compat. machines world-wide.

I heard that number too just recently.  I would suspect that about a fourth
to a third of these are the earlier models that are no longer in use.  I 
would also venture that the early MS-DOS only machines (no PC-DOS or BIOS
compatibility) are also collecting dust.  I know we have a bunch of 128K
4.77MHz machines that we have determined are not even worth the time to
look at, let alone use or upgrade.  I'm sure that this can be said about
the Mac 128's and many 512's, and most of the 9 million C-64's.

-john-

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marshall@wind55.seri.gov (Marshall L. Buhl) (05/04/90)

john@newave.UUCP (John A. Weeks III) writes:

>In article <54431@microsoft.UUCP> jamesth@microsoft.UUCP (James THIELE) writes:
>> Currently about 30 million Messy DOS compat. machines world-wide.

>I heard that number too just recently.  I would suspect that about a fourth
>to a third of these are the earlier models that are no longer in use.  I 
>would also venture that the early MS-DOS only machines (no PC-DOS or BIOS
>compatibility) are also collecting dust.  I know we have a bunch of 128K
>4.77MHz machines that we have determined are not even worth the time to
>look at, let alone use or upgrade.  I'm sure that this can be said about
>the Mac 128's and many 512's, and most of the 9 million C-64's.

I found a great use for these old XT's.  We use them as consoles for our
big *nix boxes.  I use Crosstalk and put it in capture mode.  This is great
for keeping a permanent record of console error messages and even for
documenting system administration duties.

If I add a hard disk to my *nix box, all the commands I had to enter (and
the responses) are recorded.  Then when I want to repeat the effort a year
later, I know exactly what to do and don't have to pour though all those
poorly written *nix manuals to refresh my memory.
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pnl@hpfinote.HP.COM (Peter Lim) (05/05/90)

> 
> I heard that number too just recently.  I would suspect that about a fourth
> to a third of these are the earlier models that are no longer in use.  I 
> would also venture that the early MS-DOS only machines (no PC-DOS or BIOS
> compatibility) are also collecting dust.  I know we have a bunch of 128K
> 4.77MHz machines that we have determined are not even worth the time to
> look at, let alone use or upgrade.  I'm sure that this can be said about
> 
Can you ship some of those GOOD 'OL 4.77MHz machines to me for free ?
I'll pay for the shipping and handling   :-).


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