a516@mindlink.UUCP (Jordan Melville) (05/26/90)
In article <1990May25.221048.5003@cs.utk.edu>, wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) wrote: > Ok. You idiots are pissing me off!! I did not state the obvious because I > thought it too mondain!! Here is what the problem is! Take note!! Mr Lape, we are not your slaves, nor do we work for you, and if we do indeed help you, it is out of the goodness of our hearts. And, on a side note, all the problems you reported are addressed in the documents for DESQview which come when someone buys the product. Note that they do not come when you pirate it. Jordan. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jordan C. Melville Voice: (604) 943-7155 Vancouver, BC BBS: (604) 943-3503 (2400baud) "There's blood in the UUCP: {uunet,ubc-cs}!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!a516 streets, it's up to my a516@mindlink.UUCP ankles" - The Doors
wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) (05/26/90)
Ok. You idiots are pissing me off!! I did not state the obvious because I thought it too mondain!! Here is what the problem is! Take note!! Machine: Tandy 4000 (16 Mhz - 80386) 4 Meg memory 80 Meg SCSI HD w/ Adaptec controller (Firmware on board) VGA graphics and monitor Cards: Apple Talk Network Serial/Parallel Board (1 each) Amdek CD controller 40 meg Tape back-up (slow as hell) (actually runs off of the on board drive controller as drive B:, but is not recognized as drive B:) Periphs: Amdek Laserdrive-1 Toshiba printer Software: DOS 3.3 QEMM-386 v. 4.20 DESQview 386 v. 1.0 This is what will not happen.... Mouse drive (Mouse.Sys or mouse.com) will not go into high memory (.sys locks machine, .com goes somewhere because returns to DOS prompt. Virtual machines do not come up (the box claims it will do it). No other *.sys files will go into high memory. Tape backup programme has a TSR part that will load into memory, but never activate (supposed to tell you when to backup at a certain time). Mouse does not work in Desqview, but in Quick C & QUick BASIC and Tandy Deskmate. Tape backup programme will not run in window. Appletalk printing programme hangs machine every once in awhile while running in a window (does not from DOS). R:BASE for DOS 2.11 runs very slow in a window (even when alone). Every window must be smaller than 459k (DOS uses this much with minimal drivers installed). GEM software does not run. If any graphics programme is run (interface that is, GUI) or is a programme uses the 48 line mode of VGA (line number maybe wrong, cannot remember the size), then life is being taken into own hands (locks, losses data, etc). PC:File-db looses data when run in a window (as well as PC:File+). I have done the following: Taken every unneeded card out and re-booted. Called tech support dozen times. excluded everything in video memory, tried almost every possible combination of parameters. I do use the shell command in config.sys to increase the environment. -bryon lape-
ucmpme@swuts.swbt.com (1593]) (05/27/90)
> problems you reported are addressed in the documents for DESQview which come > when someone buys the product. Note that they do not come when you pirate it. > > Jordan. > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Jordan C. Melville Voice: (604) 943-7155 Aw, c'mon Jordan, have a heart. He's probably got the English version. We could probably help if we figure out what language *mondain* is! -- M. E. Evans UUCP: swuts!ucmpme or sw1e!ucmpme
a516@mindlink.UUCP (Jordan Melville) (05/28/90)
In article <1990May28.153740.2920@cs.utk.edu>, wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) wrote: > How dare you accuse me of software piracy!!! Even thing I use > is registered and purchased!!! > > I read the damn manual and it sucks!! I found that the manual was quite well written, and, it _does_ answer the questions you asked. The way I see it, you are either illiterate and cannot read the manual or you 'own' a pirated copy of it. You choose, far be it from to choose from the above selections. Jordan. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jordan C. Melville Voice: (604) 943-7155 Vancouver, BC BBS: (604) 943-3503 (2400baud) "There's blood in the UUCP: {uunet,ubc-cs}!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!a516 streets, it's up to my a516@mindlink.UUCP ankles" - The Doors
wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) (05/28/90)
In article <1990May25.221048.5003@cs.utk.edu> wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) writes: > Ok. You idiots are pissing me off!! I did not state the >obvious because I thought it too mondain!! Here is what the problem is! >Take note!! > Ok!!!! So not everyone out here is an idiot, but from the replies I got from my first post, those people cannot read either. The mail I received must have been from persons only reading the first couple of sentences. -bryon lape-
wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) (05/28/90)
In article <1490@swuts.swbt.com> ucmpme@swuts.swbt.com (1593]) writes: >> problems you reported are addressed in the documents for DESQview which come >> when someone buys the product. Note that they do not come when you pirate it. >> >> Jordan. How dare you accuse me of software piracy!!! Even thing I use is registered and purchased!!! I read the damn manual and it sucks!! -bryon lape-
wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) (05/29/90)
>> How dare you accuse me of software piracy!!! Even thing I use >> is registered and purchased!!! >> > >I found that the manual was quite well written, and, it _does_ answer the >questions you asked. The way I see it, you are either illiterate and cannot >read the manual or you 'own' a pirated copy of it. You choose, far be it from >to choose from the above selections. For the record, we do have a registered copy of Deqview 386 ver 1.0. I read the manual cover-to-cover before even installing it AND when troubles arose. After many phone calls to Quarterdeck and getting no where (ie- problem still there), the person on the other end told me it must be a problem with the SCSI interface by Adaptec and that I needed a device driver. He did not know the name of such a driver, but was sure that it existed. No where in the manuall for the SCSI drive is an Adpatec phone number or address. My inside sources at Tandy (yes I actually know people there) had never heard of such a driver. Basically, I think there was a bug in Quarterdeck's programme and they just pointed elsewhere. Also, they have not sent us anything about an upgrade to the newer version. -bryon lape-
angelini@apollo.HP.COM (Bob Angelini) (05/30/90)
> For the record, we do have a registered copy of Deqview 386 ver >1.0. I read the manual cover-to-cover before even installing it AND >when troubles arose. After many phone calls to Quarterdeck and getting >no where (ie- problem still there), the person on the other end told me >it must be a problem with the SCSI interface by Adaptec and that I >needed a device driver. He did not know the name of such a driver, but >was sure that it existed. No where in the manuall for the SCSI drive is >an Adpatec phone number or address. My inside sources at Tandy (yes I >actually know people there) had never heard of such a driver. >Basically, I think there was a bug in Quarterdeck's programme and they >just pointed elsewhere. Also, they have not sent us anything about an >upgrade to the newer version. I have not been following this discussion so, please excuse me if the following info is redundent. I had problems with Windows 386 not loading beyond the Microsoft banner, just after switching to an Adaptec AHA-1542 SCSI controller. Microsoft suggested that I try using a device driver that Adaptec supplies. I contacted Adaptec and they gave me the number of their Tech Support BBS (1-408-945-7727). I was able to download this device driver and it did infact solve my problem. The driver is a buffering device driver for the 154x board that supports both video and virtual memory buffering. It should correct problems that the 154x has with programs that transfer a lot of data from disk directly to the screen and also apps that use 386 protected mode. Bob Angelini
wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) (05/30/90)
In article <4aaf7cbe.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> angelini@apollo.HP.COM (Bob Angelini) writes: > >I have not been following this discussion so, please excuse me if the >following info is redundent. > >suggested that I try using a device driver that Adaptec supplies. I >contacted Adaptec and they gave me the number of their Tech Support BBS >(1-408-945-7727). I was able to download this device driver and it did Finally!!! A response I can use. Thanks Bod, but I do have a couple of questions, what is the number where you downloaded? What are the communications parameters? Where is it found? (ok, so I have 3 questions) Thanks again! -bryon lape-
shim@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Sam Shim) (05/30/90)
In article <1990May29.193515.1329@cs.utk.edu> wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) writes: >In article <4aaf7cbe.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> angelini@apollo.HP.COM (Bob Angelini) writes: >>suggested that I try using a device driver that Adaptec supplies. I >>contacted Adaptec and they gave me the number of their Tech Support BBS >>(1-408-945-7727). I was able to download this device driver and it did > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Finally!!! A response I can use. Thanks Bod, but I do have a >couple of questions, what is the number where you downloaded? What are >the communications parameters? Where is it found? (ok, so I have 3 >questions) Are you blind and stupid in addition to being obnoxious? The phone number is right there. The communication parameters most likely would be the standard 8-N-1 (that is the standard for bbs's). And chances are, they have a 2400 bps modem that auto-detects to 1200 bps. Maybe if you read the message more carefully you wouldn't have to waste net bandwidth with stupid questions! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Sam Shim | "I didn't do it... | | EECS Departmental Computing Organization | It wasn't me... | | University of Michigan | Nobody saw me do it... | | Ann Arbor, MI 48109 | Nobody can prove a thing..." | | internet: shim@eecs.umich.edu | - Bart Simpson | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
angelini@apollo.HP.COM (Bob Angelini) (05/31/90)
>>suggested that I try using a device driver that Adaptec supplies. I >>contacted Adaptec and they gave me the number of their Tech Support BBS >>(1-408-945-7727). I was able to download this device driver and it did >couple of questions, what is the number where you downloaded? What are >the communications parameters? Where is it found? (ok, so I have 3 >questions) The phone number for the Adaptec BBS is 1-408-945-7727 The comm params. are 2400,N,8,1 (2400 baud, No Parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit) The driver is located in the Files Library, Files Directory The file you need is SCSIHA.ARC, this contains the driver and Doc. file Bob Angelini
wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) (05/31/90)
>>the communications parameters? Where is it found? (ok, so I have 3 >>questions) > >The phone number for the Adaptec BBS is 1-408-945-7727 >The comm params. are 2400,N,8,1 (2400 baud, No Parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit) >The driver is located in the Files Library, Files Directory Thanks for this additional information. But would you believe someone out there in nteland sent me a note telling me that I am an idiot and even cursed at me. Boy, someone out there must be a total nerd or something. I never assum comm params and this person talks about "standards." SUre, they may exist, but no one BBS is made to follow them. Thanks again. -bryon lape-
shim@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Sam Shim) (05/31/90)
In article <1990May30.211950.15094@cs.utk.edu> wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon Lape) writes: > >>>the communications parameters? Where is it found? (ok, so I have 3 >>>questions) >> >>The phone number for the Adaptec BBS is 1-408-945-7727 >>The comm params. are 2400,N,8,1 (2400 baud, No Parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit) >>The driver is located in the Files Library, Files Directory > > Thanks for this additional information. But would you believe >someone out there in nteland sent me a note telling me that I am an >idiot and even cursed at me. Boy, someone out there must be a total >nerd or something. I never assum comm params and this person talks >about "standards." SUre, they may exist, but no one BBS is made to >follow them. > > Thanks again. > >-bryon lape- There you go again. Denouncing standards. They may exist? They do exist. No bbs is made to follow them, but if they don't want problems they follow the standard. That's why standards exist. Why are you constantly denying the existence of standards. First you deny that the WD 1003 hard drive controller standard exists, and now you denounce the standard modem settings for bbs's? Look man, I see you are not an experience PC comm user. There's nothing wrong with that. But stop with this standard b.s.! Believe it or not standards do exist. Not everyone follows them, but most do. Why are denying them? Next message you'll probably say that there is no such thing as ISA, and then no SAA, etc... Like I told you before you insult people not directly by insulting them, but by posting insulting messages. If you didn't know there is a standard PC modem settings, why not just say so instead of denying standards and stating that no one is forced to follow them. Learn how to post properly, and mature a little. You're turning this newsgroup into a war zone - The world vs. you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Sam Shim | "I didn't do it... | | EECS Departmental Computing Organization | It wasn't me... | | University of Michigan | Nobody saw me do it... | | Ann Arbor, MI 48109 | Nobody can prove a thing..." | | internet: shim@eecs.umich.edu | - Bart Simpson | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) (05/31/90)
In article <1990May30.211950.15094@cs.utk.edu> wozniak@utkux1.utk.edu (Bryon La >>The comm params. are 2400,N,8,1 (2400 baud, No Parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop >someone out there in nteland sent me a note telling me that I am an idiot >... I never assum comm params and this person talks >about "standards." SUre, they may exist,... Now there's a set of parameters I never would have thought to try: 2400 baud, no parity, 8 data, 1 stop. al