mlord@bnr-rsc.UUCP (Mark Lord) (06/06/90)
Well, the QEMM-386 upgrade has arrived, WITH manifest, even though the update offer claimed no luck after May 1/90 (or whenever). QUESTION: Does anyone have QEMM5 & DV2.26 working with Super PC-Kwik ?? On my system, DV crashes as soon as it tries to "swap" to disk. The previous edition of DV-386 did not crash under these conditions. The new stuff works perfectly ok with the PC-TOOLS pc-cache (5.5). Manifest is suprisingly useful! -- ______Mark S. Lord______________________ ______________________________ | ..uunet!bnrgate!carrsc!mlord | These are only MY opinions. | | or: bnr-rsc!mlord@bnrgate | I charge for official views. | |________________________________________|______________________________|
shim@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Sam Shim) (06/07/90)
In article <3166@bnr-rsc.UUCP> mlord@bnr-rsc.UUCP (Mark Lord) writes: >Well, the QEMM-386 upgrade has arrived, WITH manifest, even though >the update offer claimed no luck after May 1/90 (or whenever). > >QUESTION: > > Does anyone have QEMM5 & DV2.26 working with Super PC-Kwik ?? > >On my system, DV crashes as soon as it tries to "swap" to disk. >The previous edition of DV-386 did not crash under these conditions. > >The new stuff works perfectly ok with the PC-TOOLS pc-cache (5.5). > >Manifest is suprisingly useful! It works fine with me. What version of Super PC-Kwik are you using? The latest version is 3.57 (or around there). If you don't have the latest version, call Multisoft and get it. The latest version also runs with Windows 3.0 (not that it matters but some other people out might be interested in that fact.). I would not recommend running Desqview 386 and PC-cache. PC-cache is not designed to and does not run well under with Desqview. I've had my drives corrupted twice by it. There was a big thread about Desqview and PC-cache on Compuserve a while back, and a lot of people had their files corrupted by that combination. Just a warning. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Sam Shim | "I didn't do it... | | EECS Departmental Computing Organization | It wasn't me... | | University of Michigan | Nobody saw me do it... | | Ann Arbor, MI 48109 | Nobody can prove a thing..." | | internet: shim@eecs.umich.edu | - Bart Simpson | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
dsew@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (David Sewell) (06/07/90)
In article <2540@zipeecs.umich.edu> shim@eecs.umich.edu (Sam Shim) writes: >I would not recommend running Desqview 386 and PC-cache. PC-cache is not >designed to and does not run well under with Desqview. I've had my drives >corrupted twice by it. There was a big thread about Desqview and PC-cache >on Compuserve a while back, and a lot of people had their files corrupted >by that combination. Just a warning. Does anyone know if the updated PC-Cache that Central Point has posted to their BBS (it's the one that comes with *.OVL files) has solved the Desqview 386 problem? -- | David Sewell, English Dep't, University of Rochester, New York USA | | dsew@uhura.cc.rochester.edu || dsew%uhura.cc.rochester.edu@uorvm |
reisert@tallis.enet.dec.com (Jim Reisert) (06/07/90)
In article <7770@ur-cc.UUCP>, dsew@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (David Sewell) writes... >In article <2540@zipeecs.umich.edu> shim@eecs.umich.edu (Sam Shim) writes: >>I would not recommend running Desqview 386 and PC-cache. PC-cache is not >>designed to and does not run well under with Desqview. I've had my drives >>corrupted twice by it. > Does anyone know if the updated PC-Cache that Central Point has >posted to their BBS (it's the one that comes with *.OVL files) has >solved the Desqview 386 problem? Hmmm. I didn't catch this thread. However, since the PC Tools v 5.5 cache was licensed from Multisoft, shouldn't it have worked just as well as Super PC-Kwik? I can see there maybe being problems with the version 6 cache, however. Though I haven't experienced any. jim =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "The opinions expressed here in no way represent the views of Digital Equipment Corporation." James J. Reisert Internet: reisert@tallis.enet.dec.com Digital Equipment Corp. UUCP: ...decwrl!tallis.enet!reisert 295 Foster Street P.O. Box 1123 Littleton, MA 01460
shim@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Sam Shim) (06/07/90)
In article <12262@shlump.nac.dec.com> reisert@tallis.enet.dec.com (Jim Reisert) writes: >Hmmm. I didn't catch this thread. However, since the PC Tools v 5.5 cache >was licensed from Multisoft, shouldn't it have worked just as well as Super >PC-Kwik? I can see there maybe being problems with the version 6 cache, >however. Though I haven't experienced any. Central Point Software licensed a stripped down version of Super PC-Kwik from Multisoft, and I guess that version doesn't have the extra code to allow it to run properly with Desqview. I'm not sure if the 6.0 version works with Desqview or not. I'll stick with Super PC-Kwik, because of its superior performance. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Sam Shim | "I didn't do it... | | EECS Departmental Computing Organization | It wasn't me... | | University of Michigan | Nobody saw me do it... | | Ann Arbor, MI 48109 | Nobody can prove a thing..." | | internet: shim@eecs.umich.edu | - Bart Simpson | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
quinlan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Bob Quinlan) (06/07/90)
In article <2540@zipeecs.umich.edu> shim@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Sam Shim) writes: > I would not recommend running Desqview 386 and PC-cache. PC-cache is not > designed to and does not run well under with Desqview. I've had my drives > corrupted twice by it. There was a big thread about Desqview and PC-cache > on Compuserve a while back, and a lot of people had their files corrupted > by that combination. Just a warning. Which version of PC-CACHE are you talking about here? I ran the version that came with PC Tools Deluxe 5.5 under DESQview for a long time with no problems. I have recently upgraded to the 6.0 version and would like to know if it could cause me problems later on. One possible factor is that 6.0's write cacheing does not work properly under DESQview. It didn't cause any corruption, but the delayed writes do not happen when they should, creating the potential for lost data. I disabled that feature and have not noticed any other problems. Do I need to look again? Any information would be appreciated. --Bob Quinlan
mlord@bnr-rsc.UUCP (Mark Lord) (06/08/90)
In article <3166@bnr-rsc.UUCP> mlord@bnr-rsc.UUCP (Me) writes: > > Does anyone have QEMM5 & DV2.26 working with Super PC-Kwik ?? > >On my system, DV crashes as soon as it tries to "swap" to disk. >The previous edition of DV-386 did not crash under these conditions. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Knowing that it SHOULD work helped! It now works just fine. The problem seems to have been some form of conflict with another TSR. Simply installing SUPERPCK after that TSR has cured it. Now.. why this was NOT a problem with the previous edition of QEMM/DV remains to be discovered (or more likely forgotten about).. who knows.. ? -- ______Mark S. Lord______________________ ______________________________ | ..uunet!bnrgate!carrsc!mlord | These are only MY opinions. | | or: bnr-rsc!mlord@bnrgate | I charge for official views. | |________________________________________|______________________________|
medici@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici) (06/09/90)
In article <2555@zipeecs.umich.edu> shim@eecs.umich.edu (Sam Shim) writes: >In article <12262@shlump.nac.dec.com> reisert@tallis.enet.dec.com (Jim Reisert) writes: >>Hmmm. I didn't catch this thread. However, since the PC Tools v 5.5 cache >>was licensed from Multisoft, shouldn't it have worked just as well as Super >>PC-Kwik? I can see there maybe being problems with the version 6 cache, >>however. Though I haven't experienced any. > >Central Point Software licensed a stripped down version of Super PC-Kwik from >Multisoft, and I guess that version doesn't have the extra code to allow it >to run properly with Desqview. >I'm not sure if the 6.0 version works with Desqview or not. I'll stick with >Super PC-Kwik, because of its superior performance. I browsed this thread on CIS, and it seemed to me like there were a very few people who actually had experienced the problem, and a large number of people theorizing over how it might happen or worrying about voodoo magic that they have no control over. If I recall, there was also some discussion whether the Disk-Manager driver, dmdvr.bin, might have contributed to the problem. I do not recall anything ever being proved, one way or the other. I have been using the PC-Tools 5.5 version of PC-Cache with DesqView/386 on my system at home for as long as PCT55 has been available. This includes QEMM and DV from versions 4.21/2.24 respectively through current (with several interations of beta code in between). I have never had any trouble with my hard disk, a Priam ID100 RLL drive, as a result. I will continue with this configuration in spite of receiving the new cache in PCT60, since I believe it is faster. At work I have DV/386 running with PC-Kwik SuperPack, only I'm just using the cache at the present. Again, absolutely no problem with that IBM 115MB drive. How does one determine that the cache program is at fault? Can the failure be consistantly repeated on two separate (although equivalently configured) systems? Does the problem consistantly NOT happen when one disk cache is replaced by another, or when no disk cache is used? Have different HD/Controllers been tried? I would be more inclined to believe this is a system incompatibility (e.g., drive/controller/cache/multitasker as a single, complete, interlocking unit) than pointing my finger at just the caching program. */Rutgers disclaims all responsibility for the content of this message./* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Medici/SysProg3 * Rutgers University/CCIS * medici@elbereth.rutgers.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------