[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Summary: X-windows under MS-DOS and SLIP

robertb@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Bedichek) (06/13/90)

Last week I asked:

"From uw-june!june.cs.washington.edu!robertb Thu Jun  7 00:18:32 PDT 1990
"
"A recent posting by Joe Galea summarized X servers for PCs.  As
"far as I know all of these expected ethernet cards to connect
"the PC to the X clients.
"
"Does anyone know of an X server that uses SLIP (Serial Line Interface
"Protocol).  With this, I could make my PC into an X terminal that
"talks to X clients at a remote site (i.e., over telephone lines).
"
"A wee better than emacs + Procomm :-).  But perhaps it doesn't exist
"yet :-(.
"
"	Rob Bedichek

It does exist:

HCL-exceed X-windows runs on pc-nfs, which will run over a serial line.
This is from Hummingbird Communications (416-470-1203).  The real-mode
version is $495, the version that can use 1.6 to 16 MB is $545.  These
can driver EGA/VGA/SVGA.  The 8514 version, which can handle 1024x768
(x256 colors) is $595.  All of this does not include SLIP, which you
must buy from FTP Software Inc. (617-246-0900) and it costs somewhere
between $150 and $400.  The response to "can I use a PD SLIP?" was
"no, we don't make our stuff work with that stuff because the PD
version(s) of SLIP are buggy."  

and

GSS sells PC-Xview for $395, plus PC SLIP for $300, plus $50 for the
remote (client side) SLIP.  Their number is 503-641-2200.

Here is additional information on PC-XView that I received:

"My recollection is that PC-XView 1.11 that I have costs about $200, but
"I believe that was a University price. PC/TCP SLIP 2.04 costs $400 list.
"I have not had occasion to deal with GSS, but have heard nothing nega-
"tive from our Unix system administrator, who has contacted them. One caveat
"is that you need some extended or expanded memory to use PC-XView with
"with several open windows. Both manuals are OK, although PC-Xview's is
"rather slim. I think it could help you a little more a setting up the
"client side.

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These prices are too high for me.  PD versions of SLIP exist and X
comes from MIT's Athena project, and I think the license doesn't cost
anything.  So is someone already making a FreeSoft version, a PD
version, or a shareware version for the PC?  I looked at something that
looks like a PD or FreeSoft SLIP that I got from:

grape.ecs.clarkson.edu:/e/tcpip/drivers.arc

via anonymous ftp.  I'm not yet sure what to make of it.  So maybe
the SLIP part is done.  How about the X server part?

	Rob Bedichek