[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Extended Memory Configuration

jw2b@watt.acc.Virginia.EDU (Sara J. Wagner) (06/06/90)

I have upgraded my work computer from an IBM XT to a WIN TurboAT,
and ordered the new machine with 1 meg of extended memory on the
theory that this would help me work with large graphics files
(Zsoft Publisher's Paintbrush).  The problem came when I discovered
that the drivers for the extended memory seem to be taking up some 
of the original 640K, to the point that programs like Ventura 
Desktop Publishing (which requires 512K free) would not run.  I 
eventually tweaked the switches on the drivers so that I could
run both Ventura and the extended memory.  Now, however, I find that
there is insufficient RAM to step out to DOS from WordPerfect and
run a file convert or do a chkdsk.

Is there a solution to this, other than keeping two versions of my
config.sys and rebooting as needed?  The config.sys which allows use
of the extended memory is as follows:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QMSJS\JETSCRPT.SYS -P2 -I1 -L2
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS 
DEVICE=C:\EXMM.SYS -r3 -e1400
FCBS=1,0
BUFFERS=12
FILES=30

The Jetscript Postscript driver must remain in place.  The ansi.sys
device only runs my clock display, and could be sacrificed if needed.

To get the extra RAM back for DOS-from-within-WordPerfect, I have to
disable line 4 (EXMM.SYS - the driver from Zsoft) and reboot.

Please e-mail me (jw2b@virginia.edu) and I'll summarize if there is
interest.

Thanks!

Jane Wagner, Information Specialist	   BITNET:  jw2b@virginia
The Claude Moore Health Sciences Library   INTERNET:  jw2b@virginia.edu
Box 234, UVA Health Sciences Center	   PHONE:  804-924-0188
Charlottesville, VA  22908 		   Opinions expressed are my own

phil@pepsi.amd.com (Phil Ngai) (06/06/90)

In article <1990Jun5.172609.2820@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jw2b@watt.acc.Virginia.EDU (Sara J. Wagner) writes:
|Is there a solution to this, other than keeping two versions of my
|config.sys and rebooting as needed?  The config.sys which allows use

You could dump your wordperfect and run Windows 3.0, Word for Windows,
and Corel Draw. You won't run out of memory then.

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wg@cbnewsm.att.com (Bill Gieske) (06/07/90)

In article <1990Jun5.220924.26695@bach.amd.com>, phil@pepsi.amd.com (Phil Ngai) writes:
> In article <1990Jun5.172609.2820@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jw2b@watt.acc.Virginia.EDU (Sara J. Wagner) writes:
> |Is there a solution to this, other than keeping two versions of my
> |config.sys and rebooting as needed?  The config.sys which allows use
> 
> You could dump your wordperfect and run Windows 3.0, Word for Windows,
> and Corel Draw. You won't run out of memory then.
> 

That's real helpful.  I suppose you'd be willing to chip in some big bucks
to defray the cost of your suggestion?

rob@conexch.UUCP (Robert Collins) (06/11/90)

In article <1990Jun5.172609.2820@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jw2b@watt.acc.Virginia.EDU (Sara J. Wagner) writes:
>I have upgraded my work computer from an IBM XT to a WIN TurboAT,
>                                The problem came when I discovered
>that the drivers for the extended memory seem to be taking up some 
>of the original 640K, to the point that programs like Ventura 
>Desktop Publishing (which requires 512K free) would not run.  I 
>
>DEVICE=C:\EXMM.SYS -r3 -e1400

If you use an expanded memory manager on a '286, it must take up som of
system memory.  On a '386 this isn't necesary, it can use other means of
memory mapping to accomplish bank swapping for expanded memory.

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rl@cbnewsl.att.com (roger.h.levy) (06/14/90)

In article <41834@conexch.UUCP>, rob@conexch.UUCP (Robert Collins) writes:
> In article <1990Jun5.172609.2820@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jw2b@watt.acc.Virginia.EDU (Sara J. Wagner) writes:
> >I have upgraded my work computer from an IBM XT to a WIN TurboAT,
> >                                The problem came when I discovered
> >that the drivers for the extended memory seem to be taking up some 
> >of the original 640K, to the point that programs like Ventura 
> >Desktop Publishing (which requires 512K free) would not run.  I 
> >
> >DEVICE=C:\EXMM.SYS -r3 -e1400
> 
> If you use an expanded memory manager on a '286, it must take up som of
> system memory.  On a '386 this isn't necesary, it can use other means of
> memory mapping to accomplish bank swapping for expanded memory.
> 
I posted a question asking about some of these issues recently.  One response
came from the author of Turbo EMS.  He says that all expanded memory simulators
(i.e. simulate expanded with extended) will grab about 72K from base memory
(64K for the simulated expanded memory pages and about 8K for the driver).
Turbo EMS does however have a command to return the 64K to active use when
needed so only a small amount of memory remains unavailable.  Don't know if
other like programs have this feature and haven't bought Turbo EMS yet to see 
how well it works.