[net.music] Mister Rosen has a point...

merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) (05/10/84)

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Here here Rich Rosen!  Being a reasonably new user of the net (I just
discovered net.music not more than a few days ago) and being a Disc
Jockey, I have been thoroughly amused by all these comments about
creating a net.music.classical.
 
Here's a concept:  I despise punk music.  If I can get a whole batch
of us together who either (a) don't like punk music or (b) just want
to have a good argument, we can make a big fuss and bother and create
a net.music.punk.
 
I despise Top 40 drivel.  I could care less about Michael Jackson's
sexual preference, Boy George, or any of that muck.  Maybe we should
create a net.music.pop for those people.
 
New wave is for the birds.  All the bands have weird names and they're
all stuck up on themselves as "the new saviors of mankind."  They say
they're against capitalism and pull 85% of the profits for their concerts.
Can't stand it.  We need a net.music.newwave.
 
I'm not a musician.  I hate all these people who sit around and talk
about music in 4/4 time or 6/7 time or whether that not is a C or C-.
We need a net.music.technical.
 
You get the idea, I think.  Given enough time, anything can be broken
down into it's (excuse the pun) net components.  Music is too broad
a subject.  I realised that when I first signed up that I would be
seriously exercising my 'n' key because there was stuff that I didn't
know about and wasn't interested in.  That's part of the territory.
Yeah, it would be marvelous if we could change the software and search
on keywords or the like.  Maybe someday we will.  UNTIL THEN, though,
let's try to exist together like peaceful human beings.  So your 'n'
key gets a little wear and tear.  So you sign on and don't see anything
that interests you.  You don't shoot your mailman because he brings you
bills instead of the letter from your girlfriend, do you?
 
Give us all a break, gang.  Don't be afraid to use your 'n' key.  It
only take about a second to ding a message.
 
("Heavy, Bwana."  "Well, it had to be said.")

dak@ihuxn.UUCP (Dave Krunnfusz) (05/10/84)

<pay no attention to the man behind the curtain>

I sent mail to Mister Rosen expressing my point of view, but given
people insist upon discussing it here, here goes:

First, out of the 200 albums I own, 2 are classical, so I am not
dye-in-the-wool classical fiend.

It is my opinion that if enough people are interested in forming
a new category, let them.  If it isn't used, remove it.  Following
the logic that has been espoused here, there should not be 
net.sports.baseball, net.sports.football, net.sports.basketball,etc,
but simply a net.sports.

Philosophically, maybe we don't want numerous specialized news groups
(but if they are being used, why not?).
Realistically, there is a significant difference between classical
music and contemporary music and thus the new group is appropriate.
The creation of this one new group will not lead to a plethora of new
groups being formed any more than the use of a sleeping pill will
cause drug dependency.

Please, can we let it drop (or carry this conversation on by mail).

Dave K.
..!ihuxn!dak

ron@brl-vgr.UUCP (05/11/84)

net.music.flame

Fine, now that all the classical music is split off, why do people insist
on posting it to both groups?  It doesn't help me any to see some of the
discussion in net.music and some in net.music.classical (the active file
has net.music first on our system).

-Ron

lowry@fortune.UUCP (John Lowry) (05/15/84)

 
>Here's a concept:  I despise punk music.  If I can get a whole batch
>of us together who either (a) don't like punk music or (b) just want
>to have a good argument, we can make a big fuss and bother and create
>a net.music.punk.

You are totally inverting what was done.....the people who created
net.music.classical did it for their own benefit, and they are the
ones who read the new newsgroup.  Those who like punk, Michael Jackson,
4/4 time, etc., still get all of that.
 
The appropriate analogy above would be if you *liked* punk music and 
didn't want to be bothered by the rest of the drivel.