[net.movies] FLAMES FACTORIAL

majka@ubc-visi.UUCP (07/27/83)

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I just read the following in net.movies. My apologies to net.movie readers
who are not interested.

	From uw-beaver!tektronix!tekecs!orca!andrew Sun Jul 24 19:26:02 1983
	Subject: Re: Jaws 3-D:  A Warning
	Newsgroups: net.movies
	
	So uw-june!eli finished viewing the movie that he/she paid for, then
	committed petty larceny by sneaking into the adjoining theater to watch
	another movie without bothering to purchase a ticket, and then had the
	gall to brag about it to thousands of netnews readers, and pan the
	movie to boot.
	
	Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?
	
	"uw-june" is a site at the University of Washington.  The most
	charitable assumption I can make is that this is a student who hasn't
	yet developed a sense of right and wrong.
	
	  -- Andrew Klossner   (decvax!teklabs!tekecs!andrew)  [UUCP]
	                       (andrew.tektronix@rand-relay)   [ARPA]

What am I (a "student" since kindergarten, making it the last 20 years of my
life) supposed to make of this last line?  Is this an implication that
"students" form some kind of moral lower-class?  Does Mr. Klossener view all
academics as some kind of scum, or does he reserve his elevated scorn for
graduate students?  I guess I become God when I receive my Ph.D, is that 
correct?  Or perhaps only those who have happily escaped from education
entirely can develop working moral and ethical standards.


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Marc Majka
UBC Laboratory for Computational Vision

ecn-ec:finn@pur-ee.UUCP (08/04/83)

Subject: FLAMES FACTORIAL
	
	"uw-june" is a site at the University of Washington.  The most
	charitable assumption I can make is that this is a student who hasn't
	yet developed a sense of right and wrong.
	
	  -- Andrew Klossner   (decvax!teklabs!tekecs!andrew)  [UUCP]
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What am I (a "student" since kindergarten, making it the last 20 years of my
life) supposed to make of this last line?  Is this an implication that
"students" form some kind of moral lower-class?  Does Mr. Klossener view all
academics as some kind of scum, or does he reserve his elevated scorn for
graduate students?  I guess I become God when I receive my Ph.D, is that 
correct?  Or perhaps only those who have happily escaped from education
entirely can develop working moral and ethical standards.

	Marc Majka
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Personally, I think that Andy was quite charitable.  The only other reasonable
assumption was that it was a Staff member who just didn't know better.  I would
much prefer to think that it was a student.  He was not cutting on students in
general, but the fact is that students tend to pay less attention to right or
wrong as long as they can get away with it (as long as they are not yet in the
real world).  Don't make the mistake of taking his statement out of context!

	The Arch-Druid of H...  (still a student, myself)
	David Hesselberth,	Purdue University Computer Center
	{harpo, decvax, ucbvax} !pur-ee!finn  (or)  !pur-ee:pucc-h:adr

rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) (08/10/83)

I've moved the discussion about the guy who went to a movie for
free over to net.flame where it belongs.  Let's chew on it over
there.
-- 
	Randwulf (Randy Haskins)
	genrad!mit-eddie!rh
 or...
  rh@mit-ee (via mit-mc)