spl@topaz.rutgers.edu (Lesniewski) (02/03/89)
I'v heard quite a bit about 'ghostscript' but I can't find it. Can someone please send me a copy(heaven forbid) or tell me where i can find it. Also if anybody out there has a list of anonymous FTP sites please feel free to send it along as well. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- xxxxxxxxxxx xxx xxxx xx Stephen Paul Lesniewski (alias Mr. HWF ) xxx xxxx xx spl@topaz.rutgers.edu xxxxxxxxxxxxx BITNET : Lesniewski@CANCER x xxxxxxx x xx xx WAP WAP WAP --- CALVIN! what are you xxxxxxxxxxx doing to my coffee table?!? --- * ? * Mr.HappyWOWface Is this some sort of trick question, or what" =) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) (09/17/89)
Someone posted a short description of a program named
GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain
version of PostScript. Does anyone know:
1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a
commercial product?
2. How do I get a copy? I don't have direct Usenet
access so suggesting I ftp from somewhere doesn't
help.
Please reply direct EMAIL or (503) 692-5778. Thanks.
--
Howard Spindel - via FidoNet node 1:105/14
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ARPA: Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORGJLI@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (09/19/89)
In article <945.2514938A@busker.FIDONET.ORG>, Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) writes: > Someone posted a short description of a program named > GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain > version of PostScript. Does anyone know: > 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a > commercial product? > 2. How do I get a copy? I don't have direct Usenet > access so suggesting I ftp from somewhere doesn't > help. Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their Ads. in most computer magazines (such as PC magazine, etc.).
nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (09/19/89)
In article <11903@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> JLI@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: In article <945.2514938A@busker.FIDONET.ORG>, Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) writes: > Someone posted a short description of a program named > GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain > version of PostScript. Does anyone know: > 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a > commercial product? > 2. How do I get a copy? I don't have direct Usenet > access so suggesting I ftp from somewhere doesn't > help. Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. No, GoScript is the commercial product. GhostScript is the Free Software Foundation's mostly-PostScript clone. There are no restrictions on using this software in a commercial product. The only gotcha is that you have to distribute source, and you can't prohibit *other* people from distributing it. If your commercial program wants to merely spawn GhostScript as a PostScript previewer, you're home free. It's on grape: The semi-official c.b.i.p archives are on grape.ecs.clarkson.edu which is a Zenith Z-248 running a modified version of KA9Q's TCP/IP NET that allows you to shell out to DOS while still processing packets. After shelling to DOS, we run an Opus BBS. The particulars: FTP: grape.ecs.clarkson.edu [128.153.13.196], user anonymous, password guest. Look in 00readme for timely information. Look in /d/general/cuhug.lst for a listing of files w/ descriptions. Look in /c/allfiles for listings of all files. Look in /c/bin[0123]/*.* for c.b.i.p postings [under renovation] Look in /e/bin4/*.* for c.b.i.p postings [under renovation] Look in /d/graphics/pa.arc for Painter's Apprentice Look in /d/dosutil/postprn.arc for the PostScript device driver Look in /e/freemacs/*.* for Freemacs Look in /g/gif/*.gif for .GIF images. Look in /f/games/*.* for Simtel20's games. Opus: 260/360 in the Nodelist. (315)268-6667, 8N1, 1200/2400 Baud, 24 hours. Look in file area 7 for PostPrn. Look in file area 12 for Painter's Apprentice Look in file area 23 for Simtel20's games. Look in file area 25 for Freemacs Look in file area 26,28,29,30 for c.b.i.p postings. Look in file area 27 for .GIF images. Submitting files to grape by FTP: You can just put the file where you believe it belongs. Note that you cannot overwrite files, so if you want to update something, you need to change the name. Send mail to root if you need to delete or overwrite a file. To help us keep the 'files.bbs' up to date, we need a .DSC file. This file should have its first line be a one-line description less than 40 characters in length. The rest of the file (no more than ten lines) can be a more verbose description. Either put the file in the arc, or else in the same subdir as the arc. This archive system is brought to you by the students of Clarkson University. The Clarkson computer club, CUHUG, maintains this FTP site and BBS. Mail questions to root@grape.ecs.clarkson.edu -- --russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu]) Live up to the light thou hast, and more will be granted thee.
nathan@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (nathan.justus) (09/19/89)
[ discussion about Ghostscript, and questions about what it is ] > >Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their >Ads. in most computer magazines (such as PC magazine, etc.). I'm sorry to disagree, but this is not the case. GoScript is the product by LaserGo. Ghostscript is, I believe, either a Shareware or PD PostScript previewer for a PC or UNIX system. -- Nathan Justus AT&T Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ att!mhuxd!nathan or nathan@mhuxd.att.com (UUCP) nathan%mhuxd@arpa.att.com (ARPA)
mcdonald@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (09/19/89)
>> Someone posted a short description of a program named >> GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain >> version of PostScript. Does anyone know: >> 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a >> commercial product? Quite a few - it is just like gnu things. >Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their >Ads. in most computer magazines (such as PC magazine, etc.). GoScript is commercial (it outputs to a file or printer) ** Ghostscript is not commercial (and free) - it outputs to the screen ***** (or could be hacked to output to a file, as it comes in source code). They are entirely different. Doug MCDonald
mlord@bmers58.UUCP (Mark Lord) (09/19/89)
In article <11903@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> JLI@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >In article <945.2514938A@busker.FIDONET.ORG>, Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) writes: >> Someone posted a short description of a program named >> GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain >> version of PostScript. Does anyone know: >> 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a >> commercial product? >> 2. How do I get a copy? I don't have direct Usenet >Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their I believe the commercial program is "GOSCRIPT", not "GHOSTSCRIPT". GHOSTSCRIPT is available from the SIMTEL20 archives, accessible to anyone who can send email (ie. just about everybody who posts to this group). -Mark
cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Stephen M. Dunn) (09/20/89)
In article <11903@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> JLI@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: $In article <945.2514938A@busker.FIDONET.ORG>, Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) writes: $> Someone posted a short description of a program named $> GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain $> version of PostScript. Does anyone know: $> 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a [...] $Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their $Ads. in most computer magazines (such as PC magazine, etc.). Sorry, you're thinking of GoScript, not GhostScript. While I've never seen GhostScript, I have heard of it and from what I understand, it _is_ PD or shareware (probably the latter). -- Stephen M. Dunn cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca ********************************************************************** <std_disclaimer.h> = "\nI'm only an undergraduate!!!\n"; "VM is like an orgasm: the less you have to fake, the better." - S.C.
terry@tah386.manhattan.ks.us (Terry Hull) (09/20/89)
In article <11903@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> JLI@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >In article <945.2514938A@busker.FIDONET.ORG>, Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) writes: >> Someone posted a short description of a program named >> GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain >> version of PostScript. Does anyone know: >> 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a >> commercial product? It falls under the GNU Public License which means you cannot sell it or any work derived from it. >Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their >Ads. in most computer magazines (such as PC magazine, etc.). I think you are referring to GoScript which is a completely different program that GhostScript. If anyone wants GhostScript, I would be happy to make it available via anonymous uucp. -- Terry Hull Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Kansas State University Work: terry@eecea.eece.ksu.edu, rutgers!ksuvax1!eecea!terry Play: terry@tah386.manhattan.ks.us, rutgers!ksuvax1!eecea!tah386!terry
zs04+@andrew.cmu.edu (Zachary T. Smith) (09/20/89)
Despite whatever LaserGo (?) may have named their product, there does most definitely exist a public domain postscript viewer called ghostscript. There was discussion about it nearly 2 months ago in this group, so this is really redundant. Ghostscript (the PD GNU program from the free software foundation) runs on several machines. Also existant is xps (an X window postscript viewer) and its suntools incarnation (same name?). The MSDOS port of ghostscript is archived (I believe) in grape.ecs.clark- -son.edu via anonymous ftp. -Zach T. Smith (zs04+@andrew.cmu.edu)
nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (09/20/89)
In article <572@tah386.manhattan.ks.us> terry@tah386.manhattan.ks.us (Terry Hull) writes: >> 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a >> commercial product? It falls under the GNU Public License which means you cannot sell it or any work derived from it. Bzzzzzt! Wrong! You can sell it for as much as the market will bear. You just can't stop *other* people from selling the same thing for as much as the market will bear. And in fact, someone is doing exactly that. They charge a reasonable price for the code, and a "reasonable" price for the source, in the $200 range. This is perfectly reasonable given that you cannot obtain source code for *many* programs regardless of the price. -- --russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu]) Live up to the light thou hast, and more will be granted thee.
uri@arnor.UUCP (Uri Blumenthal) (09/21/89)
From article <11903@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, by JLI@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu: > In <>, Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) writes: >> Someone posted a short description of a program named >> GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain >> version of PostScript. Does anyone know: >> 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a >> commercial product? >> 2. How do I get a copy? I don't have direct Usenet >> access so suggesting I ftp from somewhere doesn't >> help. > > Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their > Ads. in most computer magazines (such as PC magazine, etc.). Sorry - the answer is a total bullsh*t. LaserGo may claim ownership to GoScript, but _not_ to GhostScript, which is "copylefted" (or copyrighted, if you wish) by Free Spftware Foundation (FSF). 1. Restrictions applied are _COPYLEFT_, defined by Free Software Foundation. In couple of words (to the best of my knowledge - I'm not a lawyer!) it means that you can use the product for whatever you want. But if you include even a part of their source _in_ your product - you have to distribute your source free also. You are not supposed to sell FSF software, nor your software which is the copy/modification of FSF software. 2. If you can't FTP it, and nobody can FTP it for you - then you better call FSF at (617) 876-3296, ask for the latest GNU Bulletin, and there you find all the info about how to order FSF products on tapes, cartridges or (if it's released yet) floppies. The software is free, media and copiing is not. So be ready to pay like $150. for the GNU Tape, which consists of lots of goodies. Free Software Foundation, Inc. phone: (617) 876-3296 675 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139 USA e-mail: gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu ------------------ <Disclaimer> I have neither deal nor profit with/from FSF. All the opinions are mine, not yours.
troeger@ttidca.TTI.COM (Jeff Troeger) (09/21/89)
In article <11903@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> JLI@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >In article <945.2514938A@busker.FIDONET.ORG>, Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) writes: >> Someone posted a short description of a program named >> GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain >Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their >Ads. in most computer magazines (such as PC magazine, etc.). Sorry, it is NOT a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. Their product is GOscript. GhostScript is a similar product that was posted on one of these newsgroups a while back. -- Jeff Troeger - Citicorp (+) TTI "Of all the things I've lost, 3100 Ocean Park Bl. I miss my mind the most" Santa Monica, Ca. 90405 (213) 450-9111 x3153 Path: {retix|philabs|csun|psivax}!ttidca!troeger or troeger@ttidca.tti.com
moscona@TAURUS.BITNET (09/21/89)
In article 15362 in comp.sys.ibm.pc JLI@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >> Someone posted a short description of a program named >> GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain >> version of PostScript. Does anyone know: >> 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a >> commercial product? >> 2. How do I get a copy? I don't have direct Usenet >> access so suggesting I ftp from somewhere doesn't >> help. > >Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their >Ads. in most computer magazines (such as PC magazine, etc.). Sorry - you're wrong - GhostScript IS a public domain product. The product manufactured by LaserGo is called GoScript. My version of GhostScript knows only EGA and does not have any printer drivers (It's not very new though). The GoScript product is indeed comercial and goes for something like $195. Arnon Moscona Dept. of CS Tel Aviv Univ. Israel Tel. (home) 972-3-418443 (work) 972-3-5450173 E-mail: BITNET: moscona@taurus.bitnet INTERNET: moscona@Math.Tau.Ac.IL ARPA: moscona%taurus.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu UUCP: ...!uunet!mcvax!humus!taurus!moscona CSNET: moscona%taurus.bitnet%cunyvm.cuny.edu@csnet-relay
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (09/21/89)
In article <572@tah386.manhattan.ks.us>, terry@tah386.manhattan.ks.us (Terry Hull) writes: | It falls under the GNU Public License which means you cannot sell it or | any work derived from it. No. Wrong. Richard Stallman clarified this at the World Science Fiction convention. You certainly *may* sell GNU software, but you must (a) make source available for three years, and (b) not restrict redistribution of the program, free or for sale. The Free Software Foundation sells GNU software, and anyone else can, too. He was *very* explicit about this. If you use the gcc compiler and include their library routines in your executable then your program falls under the copyleft, too. If you use BISON and the FSF skeleton you have the same effect. I can't completely summarize the two hours RMS talked during his "30 minute presentation," but that's the important point. You are welcome to sell all you want, but everybody else is free to give it away. Makes any price beyond copying cost hard to get. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "The world is filled with fools. They blindly follow their so-called 'reason' in the face of the church and common sense. Any fool can see that the world is flat!" - anon
root@mjbtn.MFEE.TN.US (Mark J. Bailey) (09/22/89)
In article <11903@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, JLI@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: > In article <945.2514938A@busker.FIDONET.ORG>, Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) writes: > > Someone posted a short description of a program named > > GhostScript, which seems to be a (maybe) public domain > > version of PostScript. Does anyone know: > > 1. What restrictions exist on using this software in a > > commercial product? > > 2. How do I get a copy? I don't have direct Usenet > > access so suggesting I ftp from somewhere doesn't > > help. > > Sorry, it is a commercial product by LaserGo, Inc. You can find their > Ads. in most computer magazines (such as PC magazine, etc.). No, you're thinking about GoScript. ^ The package, GhostScript, is part of the GNU foundation's free unix system. I don't know right off hand what their address is, but it is *not* a commercial package by any means. It is not Public Domain either! It is Copyrighted by the Free Software Foundation (GNU) and is freely distributable (under the Public License) provided that you are not (and subsequently do not) charge for it other than distribution costs, and that you provide (or at least offer to) the complete source code (in C I believe) of the package. I am not an expert of GNU, by any means. But this should help point you in the right direction. LaserGo make GoScript which is a PostScript interpretter for MSDOS that does have output to a variety of printers including The HP Laser Jet and Epson's LX/FX/LQ family of dot matrix printers. As a matter of fact, I just happen to have a copy of GoScript with me! :-) They have a 13 font version for $195 and a $35 font version for I believe $395. I believe that they are working on a new 1000 font version which would be much more comprehensive (obviously) and that Adobe has licensed them for up to 2000 fonts. This is heresay as it was just picked up in casual conversation with a colleague. I also demo'ed another package from QMS (part of Imagen) called UltraScript. It does more or less the same thing. The graphics on both package seem really good, although matching fonts and character spacing has not worked properly like it does on a genuine postscript laser printer, but you can't have everything. As fas as GhostScript goes, I have never personally tried it. I have heard that printer output drivers may or may not be available at this time. There are a whole set of newsgroups (gnu.*) that cover all the latest on any of the packages that GNU is developing. You should check with your System Administrator or (if you are a uunet customer) ask to receive the hierarchy. Whew, I got a bit long winded there. Sorry about that! :-) Hope this helps some. Mark. -- Mark J. Bailey "Ya'll com bak naw, ya hear!" USMAIL: 511 Memorial Blvd., Murfreesboro, TN 37129 ___________________________ VOICE: +1 615 893 0098 | JobSoft UUCP: ...!{ames,mit-eddie}!attctc!mjbtn!mjb | Design & Development Co. DOMAIN: mjb@mjbtn.MFEE.TN.US | Murfreesboro, TN USA
dpz@convex.com (David Paul Zimmerman) (09/27/89)
root@mjbtn.MFEE.TN.US (Mark J. Bailey) writes: >I also demo'ed another package from QMS (part of Imagen) called UltraScript. >It does more or less the same thing. The graphics on both package seem >really good, although matching fonts and character spacing has not worked >properly like it does on a genuine postscript laser printer, but you >can't have everything. Mark - actually, I believe Imagen was acquired by QMS. Every time we need an Imagen printer around here repaired, a dude from QMS shows up. David David Paul Zimmerman dpz@convex.com CONVEX Computer Corp convex!dpz
rommel@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Kai-Uwe Rommel) (10/10/89)
Some days ago I compiled ghostscript on DOS and changed it a bit to run it with 640x480 and 800x600. But when I tried to show a Postscript file produced by MS-Word or MS-Windows, ghostscript said that there is something undefined. What's to do ? Can I (theoretically) use ghostscript to show postscript files on the screen ? Kai Uwe Rommel Munich, West Germany
jim@mks.com (Jim Gardner) (10/12/89)
In article <835@tuminfo1.lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de> rommel@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Kai-Uwe Rommel) writes: >Some days ago I compiled ghostscript on DOS and changed it a bit to >run it with 640x480 and 800x600. > >But when I tried to show a Postscript file produced by MS-Word or >MS-Windows, ghostscript said that there is something undefined. MS-Word uses an initialization file (postscrp.ini for portrait format, postscrl.ini for landscape) to set up a number of macro definitions. It sends this file to the output device to set things up, then believes that the output device will contain the definitions for the rest of the session. When you do a "Print File" into a file, the Postscript is written in terms of the initialization file's definitions. This means that you can't just send an output Postscript file through a Postscript printer or previewer; you have to send the initialization file first. However, in most cases you have to make your own version of the initialization file because the MS version is too aggressive. It tries to reprogram your Postscript device down in its heart of hearts, which is not a good thing if you are using someone else's device. Therefore, I found I had to remove the first line of the initialization file. I also had to remove the last character, a CTRL-D (if memory serves me correctly). This indicates end-of-input for Postscript; the character is okay if the input file is actually reprogramming your Postscript device, but is useless if it's not. Finally, you concatenate your modified initialization file and your output from Print File into a single file. You can send that file to any Postscript device, and presumably to a previewer too. Disclaimer: I know almost nothing about Postscript. I just know the sequence of steps I had to go through to put Postscript output from MS-Word into a disk file that I could carry to a print shop with a Postscript typesetter. I also know that I had to figure this out by myself; Microsoft On-line did not seem to be aware that the initialization file had to be modified in my case. Jim Gardner, Mortice Kern Systems
ho@FERGVAX.UNL.EDU (Tiny Bubbles...) (10/24/89)
I've run across a program lately called Ghostscript. What is it, and what does it do? It talks about being an implementation of PostScript, but I don't quite understand. Does it let you print PostScript files on non-PS printers? If not, what does it do? I thumbed through the manuals, and they all went over my head. Please respond via e-mail; I only check the newsgroup once a week or so, and I'm liable to lose followups. --- ... Michael Ho, University of Nebraska Internet: ho@fergvax.unl.edu USnail: 115 Nebraska Union BITnet: cosx001@UNLCDC3 Lincoln, NE 68588-0461
ken@mcnc.org (Kenneth A. Whitfield) (03/06/90)
In a previous message, I requested information about a product named GoScript instead of GhostScript. I'll try it one more time. I'm seeking information (gripes, likes, dislikes, etc..) on a PD software package named ghostscript. Also needed is the current version and a place where it is available through anon ftp. Thanks -=ken=-
ins845b@monu4.cc.monash.edu.au (mr k.l. lentin) (06/15/91)
I have downloaded the new copy of ghostscript 2.2 from simtel20 and it won't run. It gives some funny error about a bad command -!7 I am looking for another place I can get it or possibly where the source is? The source to 2.11 used to be on simtel (the readme file says so) But its gone now. I don';t have a laser printer but need to experiment with postscript and therefore need an msdos based product that will view it for me. I have access to dxpsview at university but I wan't to work at home. Help please? -- -----------------------------------------+---------------------------------- |/ (ins845b@monu4.cc.monash.edu.au) | This space for rent. |\evin (ins845b@monu3.cc.monash.edu.au) | All reasonable offers accepted -----------------------------------------+---------------------------------