bhj@bhjat.UUCP (burt janz) (10/11/87)
Greetings! I have just purchased a new ATT UNIX PC. I am quite pleased with it. This is not, however, my first experience with the unit. I first worked with it a couple of years ago when it was called the Model 7300. We got one the day after it was released, along with its first release of the operating system, compiler, and other utilities. In those days, loadable drivers were but a myth and a gleam in the eyes of the ATT developers. The system has changed quite a bit since then, and MUCH for the BETTER. It seems to be just what I was looking for: a very cute workstation capable of being used as a highly intelligent terminal (our mainframe goes down quite a bit -- I wanted to download my work and use the mainframe as a file server ... neat concept, eh?) I made a serious mistake, however. I didn't order the Utilities package. After getting the system home and loaded up, I discovered that I didn't have "vi", or any equivalent screen-oriented editor. Yes, I know how to use "ed" (I've been using UNIX since V6), but line oriented editing isn't the greatest for software or document construction. I would like to ask a few questions about the system, and then make a few requests. first through other companies and then my Microport system). 1) Is there any way to run the terminal emulator package without having to be in the windows package? It seems that all of the overhead doing display updating slows down the emulator, even at 1200 baud. 2) The description for the Encryption package states that it comes with vi. I loaded the package and DIDN'T find vi. Is this a misprint in the manual? 3) Are the compress/uncompress utilities compatible with those under the Beserkely UFIX kernel? 4) Finally, is there any effective way of turning all of the screen stuff off (including the daemons) to obtain the extra cpu cycles? (Faster is faster, after all...) Could some kind soul (souls?) provide some sort of editor until my own comes in? I am not asking for vi... that's a violation of both copyright and licencing. I would like to get a copy of MicroEmacs, or GNUEmacs, or any other full screen editor which seems to work well under the 3B1 UNIX. As long as I can get started now, I can compile later. I will, of course, provide floppies and return postage, and anything else that is within reason, to obtain this software. (On the side, any other useful utilities will be gratefully appreciated.) Many thanks to any and all respondees. Please send email to: ..decvax!bhjat Burt Janz
lenny@quincy.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) (10/12/87)
In article <156@bhjat.UUCP>, bhj@bhjat.UUCP (burt janz) writes: > Greetings! > [...] > > 1) Is there any way to run the terminal emulator package without having > to be in the windows package? It seems that all of the overhead doing > display updating slows down the emulator, even at 1200 baud. The terminal emulator is a little slow, I've noticed that too.. but I don't know if running it without the user agent is going to help. Although you can look in /usr/lib/ua/Comm_Pkgs it calles /usr/bin/async_main to create the Profiles. I am not sure the correct parameters you need to get it to execute (since ps doesn't give them all) > > 2) The description for the Encryption package states that it comes with > vi. I loaded the package and DIDN'T find vi. Is this a misprint in the > manual? > Hmmm... the "Encryption Set" gives vi and ex the capability to use the vi -x <file> to encrypt a file. It probably has a copy of vi on the disk, although if you don't have Enhanced Editors loaded in it might not work. Look at the contents of the disk with cpio -ict < /dev/rfp021. The Enhanced Editors (vi, ex, etc..) comes with the Utilties set, I never understood that! > 3) Are the compress/uncompress utilities compatible with those under > the Beserkely UFIX kernel? > I don't see why not. It seems to be compatible with the compress/uncompress 4.0 distributed by the net. > 4) Finally, is there any effective way of turning all of the screen stuff > off (including the daemons) to obtain the extra cpu cycles? (Faster is > faster, after all...) > kill the processes? :-) The wmgr, smgr (cron), ph don't "bog" down the CPU all that much. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Shutting the screen off so it won't burn in the monitor (without lowering the intensity) is a feature of 3.51 (screen saver). Although the monitor is still running (ie power is still going to it!) Good luck on your new 3B1! -Lenny -- Lenny Tropiano ...seismo!uunet!godfre!quincy!lenny -or- American LP Systems, Inc. ...cmcl2!phri!gor!helm!quincy!lenny -or- 1777-18 Veterans Memorial Hwy. ...mtune!quincy!lenny -or Islandia, New York 11722 +1 516-582-5525 ...ihnp4!icus!quincy!lenny
wilkes@beatnix.UUCP (John Wilkes) (10/16/87)
In article <65@quincy.UUCP> lenny@quincy.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) writes: >In article <156@bhjat.UUCP>, bhj@bhjat.UUCP (burt janz) writes: >> 2) The description for the Encryption package states that it comes with >> vi. I loaded the package and DIDN'T find vi. Is this a misprint in the >> manual? >> >Hmmm... the "Encryption Set" gives vi and ex the capability to use the >vi -x <file> to encrypt a file. It probably has a copy of vi on the >disk, although if you don't have Enhanced Editors loaded in it might not >work. Look at the contents of the disk with cpio -ict < /dev/rfp021. OK, I did that, and it's there. Now how do I get it? Alas, my utilities package is backordered. (At least my machine wasn't...) It's getting a little tiresome using ed, although I guess I don't really need an editor since I don't have C yet. And speaking of editors, how do I get the unix-pc version of GNU emacs? I hear rumors that someone out in net.land has a version with mouse support and will distribute it on floppies. While I've got your attention, does anybody know the truth about the sys V release on the 3b1. Is it sys V r 2 dot something, or is it a real release 3, or some kind of in-between mutant? Thanks! (Oh, and thanks to ATT for the fire sale!) -- John Wilkes --- UUCP: (work) {ucbvax,ihnp4}!sun!elxsi!wilkes UUCP: (home) {ucbvax,ihnp4}!sun!elxsi!maow!john ARPA: elxsi!wilkes@lll-tis.ARPA USPS: ELXSI Ltd., 2334 Lundy Pl., San Jose, CA 95131 BELL: (work) (408) 942-0900
benten@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Muhammad S. Benten) (10/16/87)
The copy of vi that is in the Encryption set is fine and works perfect. To get it use the "Floppy" object in the office and select the restore option. Use the "Restore by Unix file name" option to restore the file "vi" and if you want some goodies like "libc.a,libp.a...". The backup floppies are the Encryption set disk#1 and #2. I've tried it and I'm using vi. Muhammad S. Benten ARPA: benten@boulder.colorado.EDU --------------------------------------------------------- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ =========================================================