seth@ptsfa.UUCP (Seth Miller) (12/18/87)
Hi, O.K. I realize that this question has probably been asked a thousand times in these newsgroups, but since I have never read them before I don't know the answer. I would really appreciate any help anyone could give me regarding the following dilema and please e-mail any answer since I'm sure the whole net does not want to read this again and again. I have a chance to purchase a 3B1 with 2MB memory and a 67MB hard disk for about $1500. Only that doesn't include the MS-DOS co-processor. How much does that cost and does it povide true MS-DOS compatability? Can you also use a graphics card with that (i.e. if I want to do some desktop publishing.)? Also, it doesn't include the OS, however, my friend who can get it for me can probably throw in an OS at no charge. Any advice? I've been looking at some 286 clones for around $1800 including graphics cards and I can't decide what to do. I plan to do some private consulting and unfortunately most small business (to whom I want to consult) uses MS-DOS machines. If I do buy the 3B1 I need to do so within a few days. HELP!!!! Thanks. Seth Miller (415)823-5391 UUCP: {ihnp4,lll-crg,sun,pyramid,quantel,ames}!ptsfa!seth
wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) (12/20/87)
We have the DOS 73 card on a PC7300 at work. While it does work, it is abominably slow. The only graphics offered are simulated Hercules monochrome. The DOS 73 card hangs on a lot of stuff that doen't use graphics. The DOS 73 card is also expensive (typically around $US 800). If you have desk space that permits, a clone machine that includes CPU, monitor, keyboard and IBM-compatible slots is a much better use of the 800 bucks. This is in contrast to the PC6300+ that offers a quite nifty integrated DOS environment from Locus. --Bill
ray3rd@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ray E Saddler III) (03/31/88)
Hello; I'm hoping to help someone find a solution to the following scenerio: Steve has an AT&T 3B1 running UNIX SYSV 3.0, and has written some files in the DOS-73 System. He wants to copy the files to the UNIX System area. The UNIX filesystem has a directory called /usr/bin/DOS with the following files in it: File name Byte size ============ ============ COMMAND.COM 23210 DOS-73 129846 DOS-73.sh 485 DOSapple 69124 DOSconfig 70980 DOSdisk 79284 DOSformat 3926 DOSformat.sh 1146 DOSinstall 72470 DOSremove 72174 MS-DOS 50944 MS-DOSRM 50688 dc73.h 2611 dvd001 15360000 Helpful tips and solutions copying DOS files onto the UNIX filesystem will be greatly appreciated. - Thank You - -- | Ray E. Saddler III | __ __ __ __ | Path: ..!ssc-vax!ray3rd | | Boeing Aerospace | / / / // //| // | From: ray3rd@ssc-vax.UUCP | | P.O. Box 3999 m.s. 3R-05 | /-< / //- // |// _ |---------------------------| | Seattle, Wa. 98124 USA | /__//_//__ // //__/ | VoiceNet: (206) 657-2824 |
les@chinet.UUCP (Leslie Mikesell) (04/02/88)
In article <1821@ssc-vax.UUCP> ray3rd@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ray E Saddler III) writes: >Hello; > some files in the DOS-73 System. He wants to copy the files > to the UNIX System area. Go through Session Configuration for the DOS-73 system and assign a drive to "unix". Files copied to that drive will be in the normal unix file system. The limitation is that you cannot execute programs from there (at least I can't) and you can only have 3 files open at once on that drive. Les Mikesell ...ihnp4!chinet!les
lenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) (04/04/88)
In article <1821@ssc-vax.UUCP> ray3rd@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ray E Saddler III) writes: |>Hello; |> I'm hoping to help someone find a solution to the following |> scenerio: |> |> Steve has an AT&T 3B1 running UNIX SYSV 3.0, and has written |> some files in the DOS-73 System. He wants to copy the files |> to the UNIX System area. |> ... |> Helpful tips and solutions copying DOS files onto the UNIX |> filesystem will be greatly appreciated. |> Well the DOS-73 coprocessor nicely handles the UNIX Volume. If you have the AT&T UNIX PC DOS Coprocessor "Alloy DOS-73(tm)" User's Guide I point you to page 7-4. If not here's how you would go about doing that. First you need to go to "Session Configuration" off the DOS-73 option from the User Agent. Then Select 2 drives (if you have one DOS, and the other one will be UNIX). If you want more DOS drives, you can select 3 (ie. add 1 to the # of DOS drives you want). Then you get to a page that should say: C: dvd001 D: unix This says that the virtual drive "C:" will be dvd001, and the D: drive will be the UNIX drive. This makes it very easy to export files from the DOS virtual drives to the UNIX filesystem. There are special contrains about file structure (ie. CRLF, and number of open files), but that is detailed in the manual. Now you can from the C: drive do: C> D: D> CD \Filecabinet <- go to your Filecabinet directory D> C: C> COPY *.* D: There go you! -Lenny -- US MAIL : Lenny Tropiano, ICUS Computer Group IIIII CCC U U SSS PO Box 1 I C U U S Islip Terrace, New York 11752 I C U U SS PHONE : (516) 968-8576 [H] (516) 582-5525 [W] I C U U S TELEX : 154232428 [ICUS] IIIII CCC UUU SSS AT&T MAIL: ...attmail!icus!lenny UUCP : ...{mtune, ihnp4, boulder, talcott, sbcs, bc-cis}!icus!lenny
res@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Rich Strebendt, AT&T-DSG @ Indian Hill West) (04/05/88)
In article <1821@ssc-vax.UUCP>, ray3rd@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ray E Saddler III) writes: > Steve has an AT&T 3B1 running UNIX SYSV 3.0, and has written > some files in the DOS-73 System. He wants to copy the files > to the UNIX System area. > > Helpful tips and solutions copying DOS files onto the UNIX > filesystem will be greatly appreciated. This is a very easy thing to do. First, from the Session Configuration menu under the DOS-73 Utilities menue, define a drive (say, e:) with the name unix (all lowercase). Next, start up a DOS-73 session and copy the files from where ever to drive e:. When you return to UNIX you will find the files in your Filecabinet directory. They will have ^M characters at the end of each line, but these characters are easy to get rid of in vi (as was discussed on the net at great length some time ago). Rich Strebendt ...!ihnp4![iwsl6|ihlpe|ihaxa]!res