warren@psu-cs.UUCP (Warren Harrison) (07/01/88)
I have been thinking about buying one of those fire sale 7300s, but have
a few questions that maybe some of you 7300 owners could answer. First,
is tehre currently software commercially available for it? I know that
in the past there was a PL/I, COBOL (?), etc. compiler available, but has
Language Technology discontinued them? Also, do the binaries created on
the 7300 run on any other type of machine (besides the 3b1) and vice-versa?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Warren Harrison
Portland State University
{ucbvax,decvax,allegra}!tektronix!psu-cs!warrenthad@cup.portal.com (07/10/88)
I have it on good authority that the AT&T 7300/UNIX PC 3B1 is binary compatible with the Motorola 6300 and several other systems which were also manufactured by Convergent. Haven't tried it personally since I only have several 3B1 and 7300 systems. LPI is still actively marketing their language products for the UNIX PC (e.g. Fortran, C, Pascal, ADA, Cobol. RPG-II, etc.)
bes@holin.ATT.COM (Bradley Smith) (07/15/88)
I have tried programs from the convergent mini-frame on the
unixpc and visa-versa. The only thing you need to watch is
the windows on the unixpc (bit mapped and all) and if you
use the weird convergent terminals and their window interface.
Also the shared lib. doesn't work on the convergents.
--
Bradley Smith {ihnp4,mtune,etc...}!holin!bes
AT&T DSG Holmdel, NJ HO 2L-227
201-949-0090 / Cornet 233-0090scs@lokkur.UUCP (Steve Simmons) (07/16/88)
In article <7235@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com writes: >I have it on good authority that the AT&T 7300/UNIX PC 3B1 is binary >compatible with the Motorola 6300 and several other systems which were >also manufactured by Convergent. Haven't tried it personally since I >only have several 3B1 and 7300 systems. This is certianly true (via a friends experience) of the MiniFrame. Recently we were looking for an Ingres for the Unix-PC, and asked RTI about the MiniFrame version. They said no, it needed a couple of drivers that weren't on the Unix-PC. They said is wasn't difficult to do, but they weren't going to bother. Can't really argue with 'em... -- + Steve Simmons, Inland Sea Software, Ltd. scs@lokkur.uucp + | 9353 Hidden Lake, Dexter, MI. 48130 313-426-8981 | + UNIX Admin and Training Services "Just eight scenic miles from Hell" +
gmark@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Stewart) (07/19/88)
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the "MiniFrame"? Another Convergent machine? How does it compare to the 3B1, and is it still supported? - Mark G. Mark Stewart ATT_BTL, Naperville, Ill. ix1g266 ixlpq!gms (312)979-0914 (please include phone in response)
bes@holin.ATT.COM (Bradley Smith) (07/20/88)
In article <5333@ihlpf.ATT.COM>, gmark@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Stewart) writes: > > Pardon my ignorance, but what's the "MiniFrame"? Another > Convergent machine? How does it compare to the 3B1, and is > it still supported? The Mini-Frame is a 68010 computer made by Convergent. It is nolonger made or supported. Convergent gave away some to universities. It is basically the same machine, in that software for one will run on the other provided you stay away from shared libraries, and graphics/windowing. It also has the old 7char limit on names but is demand page. To me it looked like the UNIX 3.0 on the UNIXPC. You could also have TCP/IP, but the sockets didn't always work right and the select(2) didn't work. It is about the same performance wise as the 3B1 (if the have the same disks). -- Bradley Smith att!holin!bes AT&T DSG Holmdel, NJ HO 2L-227 201-949-0090 / Cornet 233-0090
gmark@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Stewart) (07/20/88)
In article <93@holin.ATT.COM>, bes@holin.ATT.COM (Bradley Smith) writes: > the sockets didn't always work right and the select(2) didn't work. > Not to beat a dead horse, what's it look like, and what sockets are you referring to? Not familiar with it. Thanks in advance. - Mark G. Mark Stewart ATT_BTL, Naperville, Ill. ix1g266 ixlpq!gms (312)979-0914
daveb@llama.rtech.UUCP (Dave Brower) (07/27/88)
In article <263@lokkur.UUCP> scs@lokkur.UUCP (Steve Simmons) writes: >In article <7235@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com writes: >>I have it on good authority that the AT&T 7300/UNIX PC 3B1 is binary >>compatible with the Motorola 6300 and several other systems which were >>also manufactured by Convergent. Haven't tried it personally since I >>only have several 3B1 and 7300 systems. > >This is certianly true (via a friends experience) of the MiniFrame. >Recently we were looking for an Ingres for the Unix-PC, and asked RTI about >the MiniFrame version. They said no, it needed a couple of drivers >that weren't on the Unix-PC. They said is wasn't difficult to do, but >they weren't going to bother. Can't really argue with 'em... Heh. News to me. I'd expect the Miniframe version to work fine. I've been tempted to run it myself at home, but never worked up the gumption to send 20M via 1200 baud uucp... I routinely move binaries between the 7300 and the miniframe sitting next to it at home. The only trick is that the miniframe doesn't have a shared library, so you can't link on the 7300 using it. The miniframe makes a nice tape drive and archiver, at least until I can get SCSI-ed. -dB "Ready when you are Raoul!" {amdahl, cpsc6a, mtxinu, sun, hoptoad}!rtech!daveb daveb@rtech.com <- FINALLY!