[comp.sys.att] Unix Release 3.1

sullivan@vsi.UUCP (Michael T Sullivan) (08/30/88)

In article <1611@qiclab.UUCP>, neighorn@qiclab.UUCP (Steve Neighorn) writes:
> 
> Another piece of bad news in the "I Want It All" department - The DOS
> under Unix product VP/ix is mutually exclusive with X-Windows 10.4.
> Apparently the two packages have irreconcilable differences and can't
> be installed at the same time. Too bad. Fortunately the install programs

Is this for 386's as well?  Then, it naturally follows, when Open Look
comes out on AT&T's 6386 we won't be able to run VP/ix with it?  Sheez!

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Michael Sullivan				{uunet|attmail}!vsi!sullivan
V-Systems, Inc. Santa Ana, CA			sullivan@vsi.com
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wcs@skep2.ATT.COM (Bill.Stewart.[ho95c]) (09/04/88)

In article <828@vsi.UUCP> sullivan@vsi.UUCP (Michael T Sullivan) writes:
:In article <1611@qiclab.UUCP>, neighorn@qiclab.UUCP (Steve Neighorn) writes:
:> Another piece of bad news in the "I Want It All" department - The DOS
:> under Unix product VP/ix is mutually exclusive with X-Windows 10.4.
:Is this for 386's as well?  Then, it naturally follows, when Open Look
:comes out on AT&T's 6386 we won't be able to run VP/ix with it?  Sheez!

AT&T doesn't sell an X10.4 product.  The System V 3.2 for 386s will
have X11.2 (don't know if it's included or extra).  If the vendors you
got VP/ix and X10.4 from (Bell Tech??) don't work together, beat up on
them.  Actually, I'm not totally surprised - X wants to own the screen,
and VP/IX wants to parcel the screen out to DOS clones, and short of
running DOS in X windows, it's not obvious what a good solution is.
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les@chinet.UUCP (Leslie Mikesell) (09/04/88)

In article <231@skep2.ATT.COM> wcs@skep2.UUCP (46323-Bill.Stewart.[ho95c],2G218,x0705,) writes:
>them.  Actually, I'm not totally surprised - X wants to own the screen,
>and VP/IX wants to parcel the screen out to DOS clones, and short of
>running DOS in X windows, it's not obvious what a good solution is.

How about the same solution that applies to every other unix device?
Write a driver that supplies the required functions and an interlocking
mechanism to parcel them out to the applications that request them.  Then
you could have virtual terminals without having to fire up a DOS emulator
(seemed like a pretty strange concept to me anyway... unix in a dos window?). 

Les Mikesell

neighorn@qiclab.UUCP (Steve Neighorn) (09/04/88)

In article <828@vsi.UUCP> sullivan@vsi.UUCP (Michael T Sullivan) writes:
>
>Is this for 386's as well?  Then, it naturally follows, when Open Look
>comes out on AT&T's 6386 we won't be able to run VP/ix with it?  Sheez!

This is true for Unix 3.1 on the 80386. Release 3.2 comes with X-Windows
11, in the same kind of a package that Release 3.1 came with 10.4.  The
latest version of VP/IX will work with X-Windows, at least on specific
80386 workstations. I believe that Open Look on the AT&T machine will run
with VP/ix - At least that is what I have been told.

-- 
Steven C. Neighorn            !tektronix!{psu-cs,reed,ogcvax}!qiclab!neighorn
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fmcgee@cuuxb.ATT.COM (~XT4103000~Frank McGee~C23~M24~6326~) (09/15/88)

In article <828@vsi.UUCP> sullivan@vsi.UUCP (Michael T Sullivan) writes:
>In article <1611@qiclab.UUCP>, neighorn@qiclab.UUCP (Steve Neighorn) writes:
>> 
>> Another piece of bad news in the "I Want It All" department - The DOS
>> under Unix product VP/ix is mutually exclusive with X-Windows 10.4.
>> Apparently the two packages have irreconcilable differences and can't
>> be installed at the same time. Too bad. Fortunately the install programs
>
>Is this for 386's as well?  Then, it naturally follows, when Open Look
>comes out on AT&T's 6386 we won't be able to run VP/ix with it?  Sheez!

AT&T's Unix/X/Open Look/Vpix products all work together quite nicely under
System V Release 3.2 and X Windows Version 11.2 (those are what AT&T is
currently shipping).  I've seen them all work together on both the AT&T
6386 and 6386E; no problems having 2 or 3 Simultask windows open with an 
Open Look application going as well.  They eat a lot of memory though.....

Frank McGee
Tier 3 Indirect Channel Sales Support
attmail!fmcgee