mike@mfgfoc.uucp (Mike Thompson) (10/14/88)
Greetings Unix PCers, About 6 weeks ago I posted a request for information regarding the AT&T 3B1 because I was interested in purchasing one. Well, to make a long story short, I did end up getting a 3B1 with 67M HD and 2M RAM with the Sys V version 3.51 (foundation and development). This was purchased from an ad placed in this news group. I would like to thank everyone for their thoughts and suggestions. Well, now that I have such a beast, what is the easyest way to feed it with software. I have seen references to a net group called unix-pc.src, but I don't know how to get access to it. Is it possible from the S.F. Bay Area? I am interested in software such as gcc, g++, kcl and the likes. I have ported some software to it, but would prefer to get versions of software which someone already went over and massaged for the 3B1. I would also be interested contacting someone who has a large collection of 3B1 public domain software on disks, so that I could obtain copies of the disks (for a reasonable duplicating fee). I live in Los Altos, CA so the closer the better, but I would be willing to do it by mail. I would be willing to buy used versions of commercial software, but right now I can't pay all that much since the purchase of the computer used up my budget for the next few months. I would also be interested in finding out places to get commercial products for the 3B1 locally. Well those are my questions for now and thanks once again for all your previous responses to my questions. Hope that I can return the favor sometime. Mike Thompson --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael P. Thompson FOCUS Semiconductor Systems, Inc. net: (sun!daver!mfgfoc!mike) 570 Maude Court att: (408) 738-0600 ext 370 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
pjh@mccc.UUCP (Pete Holsberg) (10/14/88)
unix-pc.sources, .general, .uucp, and .bugs are newsgroups. Ask your
feed about them.
Here's posting about killer's UPC archives:
I recently posted a request for information about the source archives for
unix-pc.sources on killer. Since then I have seen requests to post this
information when I got it. Here you go.
------------------- Maessage 1 from gauss!wilber ------------------------
Here's the standard blurb on killer. In order to get to killer from my
3b1 using an external 4024 modem, I had to change the line for 2400 baud
access to:
killer Any ACU 2400 1-214-821-3795 "" \K\r\d\r in:--in: uupdsrc word: Public
Without the "break" the modem kept autobauding to the wrong speed.
Bob Wilber wilber@research.att.com or gauss!wilber
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>From cbosgd!killer.UUCP!wisner Sat Jun 4 16:52:51 1988
Path: alice!andante!ulysses!thumper!faline!bellcore!tness7!killer!wisner
From: wisner@killer.UUCP
Subject: How to get to the USENET sources archives via anonymous UUCP
Updated: 4 June 1988 by wisner
An archive of various public domain software is available to the general
public via anonymous UUCP from site killer. This file explains what is
available and how to get it.
Two sample L.sys lines follow, one for 2400 baud access and one for 1200.
killer Any ACU 2400 1-214-821-3795 in:--in: uupdsrc word: Public
killer Any ACU 1200 1-214-827-2919 in:--in: uupdsrc word: Public
Modify as necessary to fit local circumstances, of course.
We place no restrictions on use of these archives, but please try to be
reasonable.
If you have any requests, problems, suggestions, or whatever, send them
to wisner@killer.UUCP or {ames,att,decwrl,ihnp4,mit-eddie}!killer!wisner.
I suggest you retrieve the latest copy of this file before starting any
transfers since it is likely to change without notice at any time.
Almost all files are compressed using 16-bit compression. If you are on
a system where compress can only handle 12 bits, send me mail and special
arrangements can be made. Be warned that said arrangements may take a
while; I have been known to take up to two weeks to find the time to do
them. If you are on a PC clone running a version of UNIX such as Microport,
there IS an implementation of 16-bit compress available. Try posting an
article to comp.sources.wanted to find a copy.
Indices list files without the ".Z" suffix, even when the files are
compressed. When files are compressed, this fact will be noted in the
appropriate index. More on this later.
Don't use wildcards in requests. For example:
$ uucp killer!/bbsys4/sources/unix/v11/mush5.7/* ~nuucp
This will cause killer to attempt to queue all appropriate files for
transmission to your site, which will almost certainly fail since, to
killer, you're not a neighbor. In such cases you must request each
file separately.
If you find yourself using this archive frequently, you may want to be
added to my list of archive users. I send infrequent announcements about
the archives to this list.
Enough! Here's the part you've been waiting for:
Newsgroup Filename of Index
alt.sources /bbsys4/sources/alt/Index
comp.sources.games /bbsys4/sources/games/Index
comp.sources.misc /bbsys4/sources/misc/Index
comp.sources.unix /bbsys4/sources/unix/Index
unix-pc.sources /bbsys4/sources/unix-pc/Index
All USENET sources are compressed. Indices, of course, aren't.
--
Bill Wisner
..!{ames,att,decwrl,ihnp4,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!wisner
---------------- Second article from killer!loci (with index) ----------------
The name of the archive keeper on killer (last I heard) is
Bill Wisner (wisner@killer.dallas.tx.us). The Index file is
included here as it appears on killer. The complete filename
for a file might be ... /bbsys4/sources/unix-pc/99.Z
---
File: killer!/bbsys4/sources/unix-pc/Index
Updated: 28 May 1988 by wisner
*** unix-pc.sources -- all files are in /bbsys4/sources/unix-pc/
*** All files are compressed although listed without ".Z" suffix
99 ASCII Table
100 UNIX PC TOOLS?
101 Process accounting utility
102 zoo archiver binary posting 1 of 3
103 zoo archiver binary posting 2 of 3
104 zoo archiver binary posting 3 of 3
105 windy source
106 PC7300 Real Time Clock
107 Errors in fixRTC corrected, new rev (1.3)
108 chown: improved change ownership utilities
109 m-7300.h: corrected header file for Gnu Emacs
110 "replacement" for /bin/cc to automatically get the shared library
111 man: compiled "man" program
112 man page for man
113 Windy and Vi
114 DtoU man page
115 MicroEmacs Screen driver (unixpc.c) for UNIXpc sources part1 or 1
116 MicroEMACS 3.8 UNIXpc screen driver installation instructions
117 UNIX-PC
118 "Cheap Draw" Shareware for UNIX-PC
119 UNIX 3.51 For Sale
120 Gnu Emacs patches for Unix PC mouse support
121 pty driver for UnixPC
122 "Cheap Draw" Errata
123 UNIX 3.51 Comm Fail
124 Cheap Draw Errata
125 Official patch number 9 for news 2.11
125 2.11 news src patch #9
126 C-kermit part 1 of 9
127 C-kermit part 2 of 9
128 C-kermit part 3 of 9
129 strings program
130 C-kermit part 4 of 9
130 Announcing C-Kermit 4E(066), a Test Release
130 Announcing C-Kermit 4E(067)
131 C-kermit part 5 of 9
132 C-kermit part 6 of 9
133 C-kermit part 7 of 9
134 C-kermit part 8 of 9
135 C-kermit part 9 of 9
137 Official Patch #10 for B News 2.11
137 news 2.11 src patch #10
138 Unofficial patch for 2.11.10 for the Unix/PC
139 unofficial patches to rn to use the shared library
140 Patch #11 for B News 2.11
140 news 2.11 src patch #11
141 Patch #12 for B News 2.11
141 news 2.11 src patch #12
142 Unofficial 7300 patch for news source, in localize.7300
143 afio -- PD cpio replacement, part 1 of 2
144 afio -- PD cpio replacement, part 2 of 2
145 sudo.c (source) - Command as the superuser.
146 B News 2.11 -- official patch #13
146 news 2.11 src patch #13
147 PD Tar, part 1 of 3
147 v12i068: Public domain TAR, Part01/03
148 PD Tar, part 2 of 3
148 v12i069: Public-domain TAR, Part02/03
149 PD Tar, part 3 of 3
149 v12i070: Public-domain TAR, Part03/03
149 Small shell-style pattern matcher
150 Temporary patch for 2.11.13
150 Re: news 2.11 src patch #13
151 Window iconifier for 7300
152 phdaemon.c (Phone Daemon source) - Monitor Phone calls
153 UNIX-PC Questions...
154 A Yale starchart driver for the UNIX-PC
155 A 36x80 font for the Unix-PC
156 UNIX PC Device Kernel Debugger (db.o - object code)
157 Re: UNIX PC Device Kernel Debugger (db.o - object code)
158 Smart SW format to Multimate format Conversion prog. wanted
159 mailcall
160 UNIX-PC Character font for nethack 2.2
161 UNOFFICIAL patch to B News 2.11.14
162 Official patch #14, B News 2.11
162 2.11 news src patch #14
163 Re: Alternate-font mods to nethack for X3.64 compatible machines
164 Yet another set of font mods. for UNIXpc/7300/3b1/safari4...
165 Patch to make font switching on UNIXpc optional.
166 Mods to MicroEMACS v3.9e to use UNIXpc keyboard, etc...
167 Re: Patch to make font switching on UNIXpc optional.
168 Patch to CKermit to automatically invoke Zmodem
169 a simple backup script
170 moria shared lib?
171 showPaint - UNIX-PC program to display MacPaint Files
171 showPaint - show MacPaint Pics on 3b1
172 Another CKermit patch...
173 MacPaint.pic -> PC7300 display
174 sysinfo: source to display system info on window (UNIX PC only)
175 "ccc" C compiler shared-lib interface for UNIX-PC
176 Re: sysinfo: source to display system info on window (UNIX PC only)
177 A 3B1 script for compiling with shared libraries
178 3b1plot - plot(1) filter for 3b1
179 Patch to allow "sysinfo" change to the current active window.
180 Ray Traced animation
181 Panic Button
182 acctcom for 3B1
183 "vulture" - status line display program
184 Help with nlist(3c)
185 fixdaemon; a program to fix 3B1 uucico wierdness
186 lastlogin.c source (was: Re: SysV lastlog)
187 New Version of the UnixPC Pty Driver
188 8x9 font for 3B1/7300
189 cppp (c pre-pre-processor) fix 8-char symbol limit.
190 Looking for leads on UNIX PC.
204 You guessed it... patch #4 to Pcomm
205 fixRTC (1.4) shar
206 Yes, this is another patch to Pcomm
207 loci vsee/vsav shar
208 Revised ccc script - Version 1.3
209 Graphics software
210 "fmt" program by bgray@marque.me.ed
211 NULL pointer reference in fmt.c
212 patch for vsee.c , new pix
213 do_bord.c ; turn borders on/off for PC7300
214 MAINTAINING LOG FILES - *PROGRAM WANTED! !*
215 Re: MAINTAINING LOG FILES - *PROGRAM WANTED! !*
216 Sar(1m) for the 3b1
217 Unix PC /dev/vidram device driver (sources)
218 Re: Unix PC /dev/vidram device driver (sources)
219 Patch #5 to Pcomm v1.0
220 Unix PC keyboard driver with meta key and other features (source)
221 Re: Unix PC keyboard driver with meta key and other features (source)
222 logininit: login information for /etc/profile (source)
223 CPPP (c pre-pre-processor) shar
224 undump: create an executable from a.out + core dump
225 ccpio - do compressed backups
--
==========================================================================
Darrel Carver AT&T Network Systems
att!wp3b01!drc or attmail!dcarver White Plains, NY 10601
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Pete Holsberg UUCP: {...!rutgers!}princeton!mccc!pjh
Mercer College CompuServe: 70240,334
1200 Old Trenton Road GEnie: PJHOLSBERG
Trenton, NJ 08690 Voice: 1-609-586-4800thad@cup.portal.com (Thad Thad Floryan) (10/18/88)
To: Mike Thompson, et al (others in Silicon Valley with 3B1/UNIXpc/7300) I, too, reside in Los Altos and am the de facto UNIXPC Librarian of the AT&T USERS' GROUP sponsored and charted by AT&T (N.Bay meetings alternating between San Francisco and Oakland, S.Bay meetings in Sunnyvale). So far the UNIXpc SIG (Sunnyvale Chapter) comprises some 8-10 people. Syd Reid and Sharon DeLuca (sp?) of AT&T got the AT&T "The STORE!" disk and documentation for me to distribut to our members. You may wish to join the Users' Group (AT&T is a VERY gracious host!). I get the unix-pc.* newsgroups via PORTAL (located in Cupertino) and we're attempting to establish a uucp net of interested UNIXpc owners in this area. A "ton" of stuff exists for the UNIXpc and we're sharing it all. Besides having 4 of the beasts myself, I also have the complete schematics and REFERENCE MANUAL to help those with hardware problems (to give you an idea of the scope: 3 of those 4 systems are ones I rebuilt from scratch; the "big" 3B1 I bought new fully loaded). Feel welcome to send me email so we can all get together! AT&T (in Sunnyvale) is supporting our SIG, and people and AT&T and at various PacBell sites in the Bay Area are willing to lend a hand. Interest is also rising to band together and help IDT out with their SCSI interface. . One of the first orders of business is to get everyone up to speed with uucp, so don't delay! Keep those cards and letters coming. Call now, operators are standing by! :-) Thad Floryan [thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ...!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad]
wilkes@mips.COM (John Wilkes) (10/19/88)
In article <10143@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad Floryan) writes: >I, too, reside in Los Altos and am the de facto UNIXPC Librarian of the >AT&T USERS' GROUP sponsored and charted by AT&T (N.Bay meetings alternating >between San Francisco and Oakland, S.Bay meetings in Sunnyvale). Where? When? I attended one of these some time ago, and they seemed to be focused on MSDOS. Has this changed? I don't own or use an MSDOS machine, and I don't want to waste my time. If there is a UnixPC-specific group getting together, I'd like to join. A larger AT&T Unix-specific group would be fine, too. I just don't want to devote an entire evening to listening to a description of the latest and greatest PROMS and MSDOS release for the 6300. (No flames, please. I'm sure that owners of the 6300 don't want to listen to a discussion of IDT and their SCSI woes.) >Keep those cards and letters coming. Call now, operators are standing by! :-) I tried to call, but the line was busy, so I posted instead. ;-) >Thad Floryan [thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ...!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad] -wilkes -- -- work: {decwrl ames pyramid prls}!mips!wilkes -OR- wilkes@mips.com
thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) (10/19/88)
Sorry for net bandwidth, but coping with bounced mail is not my forte. The original message to which I responded has since been deleted (since I have to pay for storage), so I hope that "Randy" sees this. Portal-Rmail-To: thad@cup.portal.com Received: by portal.com (3.2/Portal 8) id AA28087; Tue, 18 Oct 88 23:14:40 PDT Received: from portal.UUCP by sun.Sun.COM (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA26689; Tue, 18 Oct 88 22:13:41 PDT Date: Tue, 18 Oct 88 22:13:41 PDT From: MAILER-DAEMON@Sun.COM (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Message-Id: <8810190513.AA26689@sun.Sun.COM> To: portal!cup.portal.com!thad ----- Transcript of session follows ----- bad system name: umn-cs uux failed ( 68 ) 550 umn-cs!randy%umn-cs.cs.umn.edu... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: <portal!cup.portal.com!thad> Received: from portal.UUCP by sun.Sun.COM (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA26687; Tue, 18 Oct 88 22:13:41 PDT From: portal!cup.portal.com!thad Received: from portal2.portal.com by portal.com (3.2/Portal 8) id AA27196; Tue, 18 Oct 88 22:02:29 PDT Received: by portal2.portal.com (3.2/Portal 5.1 (sub)) id AA02910; Tue, 18 Oct 88 22:02:04 PDT To: randy@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu Subject: Re: Request for info on 3B1 software Lines: 39 Date: Tue, 18-Oct-88 22:01:59 PDT Message-Id: <8810182201.3.26695@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) X-Possible-Reply-Path: thad@cup.portal.com X-Possible-Reply-Path: sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad Hi Randy! Thanks for your message. At present, the only "officially" sponsored AT&T User Groups are here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Mark Dill (AT&T Public Relations) is working on forming similar groups across the country. I think it'd be great that ALL of our groups be in contact. I don't have Mark's phone number handy (and he doesn't seem to have a Usenet address), so let's stay in touch either via e-mail or unix-pc.general or comp.sys.att On which newsgroup did you see my posting? This is important to be sure that maximum coverage is achieved. At present, the "local" AT&T groups are comprised mostly of people owning the 6300, 6312 and 6386 systems, but I've formed the informal SIG for the UNIX PC. There's a LOT of us out there as witnessed by the incredible amount of mail I've received today. Perhaps the unix-pc.* newsgroup can be the offical forum for sharing info amongst all of us. Your thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated. I believe it would be beneficial also to conduct these meeting discussions in the newsgroups (e.g. unix-pc.general and comp.sys.att) just so that we attract the max audience. I'm still attempting to get some more phone lines (at home) so I can put one system on a dedicated line; the trunk in my area (presently) has insufficient copper to bring in more lines inexpensively. Sigh. Thad Thad Floryan [thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ...!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad]