[net.movies] Trading Places

alexisp@ihuxk.UUCP (06/13/83)

Trading Places: stars eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd

not even Eddie Murphy was able to save a poor script. The laughs were
half hearted, the story was prepostorous (for example eddie murphy 
turning into a financial whiz in about 5 min flat...) and I thought the movie
was 
1) racist: somehow, no one laughed very hard at any of the racist jokes,
mostly because they didn't come across as jokes...
2)sexist: for no apparent reason, we get treated to several women
showing their breasts, without ever adding to the story. (i have to
admit I didn't know Jamie Lee Curtis had such a nice body though...). this
kind of nudity is unwarranted, and reinforces the point that women are
sex-objects. 
	Also, we had one more example of that famous male fantasy, the
golden-hearted whore. this makes even less sense when you realize that
at no time is the fact that Curtis is a prostitute really have anythging
to do with the movie!! 
3) a rip-off: one scene in particular was a DIRECT rip-off of one of
richard pryor's funniest moments ever, the "I'm BAADDD" routine in
Stir Crazy.

conclusion: sophomoric movie that wasn't very funny, and not worth
seeing. 2 stars.
					Alexis Porras
					ihuxk!alexisp
					Bell Labs, IH

silver@csu-cs.UUCP (06/26/83)

Somewhat   predictable,   simple  plot.  Nonetheless   enjoyable,   very
entertaining.  Some  parts  not  "believable".  Fast-paced,  varied.  No
violence, some cursing, generally tasteful sexuality.  Nice ending.

Overall: worth seeing, 8/10.

PS:  I found it amusing that Jamie Lee  Curtis's  sexy cut in the coming
attractions,  where she's  wearing a tight red top, was  actually a nude
scene in the movie.

cwd@ihuxq.UUCP (06/29/83)

I wasn't completely paying attention when the pawn broker came on the screen,
but my glimpse of him makes me think it was Bo Diddly (Diddley ?). He has
been in a revival mode lately. The MTV video for "Bad to the Bone" by
Geo. Thoroughgood has him playing Geo. at pool. A great video!!!!!!!!!
CWD-ARIES

rsg@cbscc.UUCP (06/30/83)

I fully understand how the Duke's lost money at the end of the film,
but I do not understand how the heroes gained a fortune. Does anybody
out there understand the commodities market enough to explain it?

mauney@ncsu.UUCP (07/01/83)

References: cbscc.114

Q: I understand how the Hunts (I mean the Dukes) lost money
   at the end of the film,  but how did the good guys
   make money?


   (---------Minor spoiler---------------)







A: Simple, they sold high and bought low.  High when the Dukes
   were trying to corner the market,  low when the market panicked.
   Notice that since they were able to buy back all the OJ they'd
   sold,  they didn't necessarily have to own any in the first place
   (selling short).

israel@umcp-cs.UUCP (07/03/83)

What I believe happened (and I'm not an expert on the commodities market
either) is that:

First, Louis and Billy Ray waited for the price of frozen OJ stock to get up
to $1.40 and then they sold.  This is called selling short, which
means that they were selling options that they didn't have yet.  This
is a binding transaction on them, which means that they have until the
transaction is completed to actually acquire ownership of the necessary
papers.

Second, the announcement that the orange crop was going to be a full
crop was released.  This immediately lowers the worth of the frozen
orange juice stock, which starts to plummet.  When it got down to
twenty-nine cents they bought up the necessary paper to cover their
first transaction (which was what they had sold earlier in the first
place).

So what they effectively did was to buy thousands of shares at twenty
nine cents apiece and sell those shares at one dollar and forty cents
each.  The order of the buying and selling doesn't matter.  If the
price had gone up, then they would have had to buy options at a higher
price to cover what they had sold at a lower price, so they would have
lost money.

Are there any commodities experts out there who can confirm or deny
this?
-- 

~~~ Bruce
...!seismo!umcp-cs!israel (Usenet)
israel.umcp-cs@Udel-Relay (Arpanet)

tombl@metheus.UUCP (07/04/83)

Regarding commodities trading: commodities brokers cover only a fraction of the
cost of a commodity they buy or sell. They can, and frequently do, undertake
transactions which exceed the total capitilization of their company.

What happened in the movie was that the "buy" went out in anticipation of
a rise in the price of orange juice concentrate futures. What the broker will
be expecting to do is hold the commodity, perhaps for only for a matter of
minutes, and then sell at the new (higher) price. In the movie, everyone
got a "sell" at the same time (Dept. of Ag.) announcement. Clearly, the
broker will want to unload the commodity as soon as possible -- but at that
point no one was buying. Hence the drop in price as brokers become increasingly
desperate.

The buy at 30, or whatever it was, was a buy by our heroes, who at that point
were holding nothing. They could reasonably expect the price to rise (so also
could anyone else who happened to be following the action), probably to a level
not too different than 100 where it started. Presumably they had the cash to
cover themselves in the meantime, or could raise it either from other sources
or by selling out part of their holdings at a lower price. The other brokers
may not had the cash, or the confidence, to wait for the price to rise. Also,
they had an opportunity cost to factor in.

syko@hou2b.UUCP (07/05/83)

I saw Trading Places last night.  I highly recommend it.  A very funny
movie.

				Danny Sykora
				hou2b!syko

Caro.PA@PARC-MAXC.ARPA (10/26/83)

"Trading Places" has been out for quite a while now, but you can still
catch it at the discount places.  Starring Dan Ackroyd and my man Eddie
Murphy.  Rehash of the "Prince and the Pauper" under the guise of a
"scientific experiment" conducted by two VERY RICH old fogeys.

Eddie Murphy steals the show, as usual.  Dan is ok, but a bit
lack-luster.  Jamie-Lee Curtis (??) does a good bit as a soft-hearted,
but right-headed hooker.  No gratuitous sex and very little violence,
sorry.  The movie includes a five minute lesson on the commodities
market, and the old adage "buy low, sell high" is proven, once again, to
be true.

On the Commodore's Scale of Merit (6 bells being all's well) I'd give
this a 4 (one comedian does not a good movie make.)

Commodore Perry

Next week (with any luck):  "The Right Stuff"