Inouye.PA@PARC-MAXC.ARPA (10/27/83)
Why is it that nobody ever reviews X-rated movies on this dl? Just curious, honest. -- Brian --
Roberts.PA@PARC-MAXC.ARPA (10/27/83)
Ok, I'll take you up on that. I recently rented a couple films for a bachelorette party: "Star Virgin": A beautiful woman is brought to life in the last days of the universe (by a Xerox machine which can duplicate anything!). She persuades a robot to tell her about the history of sex, which it proceeds to do in a series of episodes. Not bad, except that one of the episodes was a rape scene. "Titillation": A Sam-Spade-style private detective is hired to find the woman who fits into an outsize bronze bra. Too much plot (which was imposible to follow in a party situation), and the infrequent sex scenes seemed indistinguishable. -Terry
Hamilton.ES@PARC-MAXC.ARPA (10/27/83)
From: Bruce Hamilton <Hamilton.ES@PARC-MAXC.ARPA> Other than "The Devil in Miss Jones" and "Caligula", I don't think I've seen much porno with truly interesting plots. It seems the best you can hope for is a couple of decent 5-minute sex scenes. The other problem is that the same dozen or so actors & actresses seem to be in ALL the flicks. WHY??? It gets rather boring after a while -- I've pretty much given up on porn in recent years. I heard that Linda Lovelace has turned into some sort of Jesus freak and has been trying to claim that she was "coerced" into making Deep Throat. Sure... Anybody know what ever happened to Abigail Clayton? Marilyn Chambers is still light-years beyond all the rest. Does anybody else believe that a nympho/ exhibitionist personality is likely to be associated with certain physical traits? It strikes me that an amazing number of the actresses in these films have a sort of high-cheekboned, cat-eyed quality -- they really are a special breed! --Bruce
mac@allegra.UUCP (10/31/83)
"stephen" mentioned that he could not think of any films that were "erotic art"... What about the love scenes in "Coming Home" (Fonda + Voight), or "Tattoo" (Dern + Adams)? Excellent films, good plot, and erotic. These movies (and others) prove that you don't need to be explicit to be erotic... Jim McParland allegra!mac
labelle@hplabsc.UUCP (WB6YZZ) (10/31/83)
When I see an X-rated film, I don't go for the plot! I go for the action!
Mackey.PA@PARC-MAXC.ARPA (11/01/83)
I'm surprised no one mentioned films by Russ Meyers. I had the opportunity to see a special showing of several of his films several years ago at the U.C. Theater in Berkeley. He was supposed to be there to answer questions, but couldn't make it. The films that were shown: Finder's Keepers, Lover's Weepers Vixen Super Vixen Up I'd recommend only the last two, and will ignore the first two (they are his early films, and are fair). "Super Vixen" (not a sequel to "Vixen") was part fantasy, as the ghost of a young man's voluptuous wife helps him through several escapades. There are some funny scenes, but also the most violent scene I've seen. We all agreed that "Up" was the best. I think it was about Hitler surviving, and having a daughter, who a beautiful secret agent tries to find in a remote mountain town. There was a story in there somewhere. Several funny scenes, and even the violence is amusing (unlike "Super Vixen"), partly in its excess. All the films are soft-porn, though some of the violence may make it hard-core. The thing that makes Meyers' films different (from what I hear) is the amount of humor they have in them. They're not just sex and violence, they're sex, violence, and some laughs. By the way, a friend who saw them with me, and is a Meyers fan, and connoisseur of X-rated films, saw "Beneath the Valley of the Ultra Vixens" and thought it was bad. ~Kevin P.S. Friday, November 18th, the U.C. Theater will be showing "The History of the Erotic Movie," "a comprehensive and entertaining documentary."
rene@umcp-cs.UUCP (11/01/83)
The only one really worth the price of admission is Flesh Gorden. (The
animation is amazing!) At least Misty Beethoven had a plot - sort of
Pygmallion (sp?). Apparently the actress never starred in it, but it
was made from outtakes and doubles!! It's really a shame a porno movie
was her first movie - she was a dead ringer for Princess Leia!
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Uucp:...{allegra,seismo}!umcp-cs!renediy@sb6.UUCP (D. I. Young) (11/02/83)
Porn movies used to reviewed regularly by Playboy, but they dropped it. I hope someone on the net can help me recall what was playboy's reason(s). I believe they said that it was all the same old stuff, and thus not deserving of the coverage afforded other films. But face it, it's either a porn movie or not. To me, close-ups of lovemaking would be hard to depict as "art" of any type. Thanks to the Playboy channel I was able to retire my raincoat and save $5.00 a month. I went to seee my first porn movie a few years back and was shocked to find the theater full of couples... I was the only fool in a raincoat, not what I expected. Everybody laughed at all the sex scenes! I believe you see the same porn stars all the time because the porn-makers have set up their own "Hollywood" system, so to speak. That reads "Who'll pack the theaters?" They have their own "Oscar", and if any of you have the Playboy Channel you've probably seen the Erotica Awards, where they hand out prizes for costumes, music, plot, (PLOT?), etc. I have to admit that the movie Nothing To Hide had a pretty good plot, that is to say I paid attention to what went on in between the sex scenes, and it could have made a decent movie (no pun intended) if they left out the explicitness. Anyway, the porn shops and theaters are returning to Atlanta, after a long battle with the law down here (that's another tale - oops!) and they aren't as explicit as the PC. I found out that porn producers are now shooting their movies in 3 versions-- soft-core (simulated sex), hard-core, and R-rated. Boy, what would they have done with Princess and Jabba the Hutt!!! Anyway, I have a good friend who is a pervert, and I'm sure he'll be glad to know that porn is not dead, just diversifying!!! dennis
burton@inuxe.UUCP (Thomas Burton) (11/02/83)
My first hardcore porno flick was actually a very good one with a plot. The title was "Take Off", and it was appropriately named; the movie was a takeoff of Wilde's classic "The Picture of Dorian Grey". It starts back in the 20's, with this young man becoming involved with an older woman who secretly films the two of them having sex together. The young man, of course, utters the classic line "I wish I could stay young forever and my picture grow older instead" (or words to that effect), and we are then taken on a sexual romp through the decades, with our hero doing "take offs" on Cagney, Bogart, Dean, etc, as appropriate for the era. Overall, an enjoyable film: decent plot, not-bad acting, humor, and pretty good sex as well. In fact, I don't believe the actors and actresses were even the usual ones you see in all the porno flicks. As far as rating porno films, Hustler has a rating system and regularly reviews the hardcore films (as well as books); I might mention that "Takeoff" got a "three-fourths rerpgvba" rating (on a scale from "none" to "full rerpgvba", with the rerpgvba being ROT13 to keep from offending anyone). Of course, I don't read Hustler; someone TOLD me about it :-). Doug Burton inuxe!burton ATT-CP IN
msimpson@bbncca.ARPA (Mike Simpson) (11/02/83)
(RE -- umcp-cs!rene's reference to Flesh Gordon.)
I saw both the X and R-rated versions of this movie when
I was a sophomore in college. The R-rated version is choppy and
has little continuity, it was clearly made by hacking at the
X-rated version with a cleaver. The X version was actually not
bad, and pretty funny the first few times. (I'm not sure how I
would feel about it if I went back to see it again, though.)
On an unrelated subject -- I trust everyone went to see
the Rocky Horror Picture Show this weekend, yes?
-- cheers,
Mike Simpson
Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.
Ten Moulton Street,
Cambridge, MA 02238 (USnail)
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617-497-2819 (Ma Bell)mikey@trsvax.UUCP (11/03/83)
#R:sri-arpa:-1299400:trsvax:53700008:000:1300 trsvax!mikey Nov 1 16:02:00 1983 re: Cable vs. Broadcast adult video In the Ft. Worth area the adultr films on the cable are really hard 'R' rated. It seems that they can't or won't show true 'X' rated films. The local MDS (Microwave) system recently merged with ON TV after the local TV station started censuring the movies that they broadcast, even though they were scrambled. Now that they are on microwave, they still show only heavy 'R' versions of 'X' rated films. Sometimes the editing makes the movie very choppy and the sound track may not match the video, but who listens??? Before the MDS merged, they used to show HEAVY 'X-RATED' movies, uncut, unedited, un anything. Since the merger, the 'X' movies are only shown a couple nights a week and after midnight. This is obviously a break from what ON TV is broadcasting. What it comes down to is probably what the local standards will bear on private channels or cable. On anything broadcast, even scrambled, there seems to be censorship. MDS is not on a broadcast channel (2300 mhz) so they seem to be exempt. Also, anything with nationwide distribution by sattelite probably is tame to satisfy distribution system requirements and local standards. All this is conjecture based on experience and friends around the country, but it seems to explain things
rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) (11/03/83)
There is a porn flick we showed here recently called "Take Off." It is said to be losely based on "Dorian Gray." Well, a little, anyway. The main character is about 80 years old, but he looks about 25. The trick is, a girlfriend he had way back when filmed him while they were having sex, and after that, his image in the film aged, but he didn't. He tells his life story to a woman who is at his place for a party. He goes thought each of the succeeding decades (30's through 60's), and some of the spoofs are great (like on Bogart). There isn't a great deal of sex, and it's pretty mild. Still, it's an entertaining movie, probably the best I've see of this genre. -- Randwulf (Randy Haskins); Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh or... rh@mit-ee (via mit-mc)
todd@bnl.UUCP (Todd Arensen) (11/08/83)
Some of the best smut floating around these days are classics like "The west Side Boys" and "Pacific Coast Highway". However they tend to have a rather limited following. Todd Arensen.