mikes@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (Michael Steele) (02/22/89)
I am new to this newsgroup so pardon any ignorance regarding the topic. As a part of the South Hall Computer Theme Program at NC State University in Raleigh, NC, we aquired a Convergent Tech Mini-frame plus a few months ago. Below are several questions I have regarding the system, any help you can provide will be GREATLY appreciated (either by posting to the net or via email). We have a mini-frame plus with v3.10net of SYS V. We have 130 meg of disk storage and about 4 meg of memory. We are suppose to be configured to support 16 users, 8 over 9600 baud serial and 8 over ethernet. 1) Is there an FTP site for pc sources (ie an archive) or software that is configured for the 7300 3B1 miniframe, etc (I've heard they are all binary compatable). What has been a pain for us is converting BSD programs to Sys V, I'm sure others are doing the same. Has someone archived these conversions? 2) Has anyone found a patch for 3.10 net version of Sys V that will allow TCP IP software to work on a Type B network? To put it simply, our TCP-IP software doesn't work on the Ethernet network at NC State. It's my understanding that the software isn't masking certain packets correctly to recognize a Type B? network. 3) Has anyone seen a PD korn shell for the CTIX machines? It is my understanding that later versions of Sys V support the Korn shell. Is it true that AT&T distributes UNIX free to universities...I assume this information is VERY old, or do they still do it. If so, how would one go about upgrading their software and can we get kernal source? 4) I've seen several postings about gcc running on AT&T machines. We have the gcc source but haven't compiled it due to a 8 character variable name limit in our compiler. Has someone gone through gcc and shortened the variable names or does this limitation disappear with later versions of Sys V? We have sucessfully converted elm and emacs to the 8 char limit if anyone is interested in getting our modified source. We are very interested in removing the 8 char limit so we can easily compile other large programs. 5) Does anyone know of a PD pascal for any machine...one that has the possibility of being converted to our CTIX machine? Or any other languages for that matter. 6) Finally does anyone know of man files for the CTIX machine or for Sys V. We didn't get any online docs with our system and are presently modifying BSD docs to comply with Sys V. Thank you for bearing with me. Once again, any help will be appreciated! Michael Steele mikes@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu mikes@ncsuctix.ncsuvx.ncsu.edu netoprms@ncsuvm.bitnet
terry@eecea.eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull) (02/22/89)
In article <2592@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> mikes@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu.UUCP (Michael Steele) writes: > > 3) Has anyone seen a PD korn shell for the CTIX machines? There are NO public-domain versions of ksh available. It (ksh source) can be purchased from AT&T Toolchest for several thousand dollars. Aspen Technologies sells ksh binaries for $150-$350 depending on the target machine. Send e-mail if you would like a phone number. > It is my understanding that later versions of Sys V support the Korn > shell. System V Release 4 will include ksh. > Is it true > that AT&T distributes UNIX free to universities...I assume this > information is VERY old, or do they still do it. No it's not free, but it is much less than the commercial price. University price is only a few thousand dollars. > If so, how would one go > about upgrading their software and can we get kernal source? Remember, you are not running SysV, you are running CTIX. Not only will you need SysV sources, you will also need the Convergent customizations to the standard source if you want to build a new kernel for your machine. I think the problem will be getting the sources from Convergent. -- Terry Hull Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering Kansas State University INTERNET: terry@eecea.eece.ksu.edu Manhattan, KS 66502 UUCP: rutgers!ksuvax1!eecea!terry
dfred@sol.engin.umich.edu (David J Fred) (02/23/89)
In <564@eecea.eece.ksu.edu> terry@eecea.eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull) writes: >> 3) Has anyone seen a PD korn shell for the CTIX machines? >There are NO public-domain versions of ksh available. It (ksh source) >can be purchased from AT&T Toolchest for several thousand dollars. >Aspen Technologies sells ksh binaries for $150-$350 depending on >the target machine. Send e-mail if you would like a phone number. A list of anonymous FTP sites was recently posted to alt.sources. One of the sites (gpu.utcs.toronto.edu) has a PD version of ksh available. It is based on a PD version of sh written for V7, or so the README says. I have not snarfed the source (only the README) and looked at it. If it is for real, I wonder why it has never been posted? >Terry Hull Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering > Kansas State University >INTERNET: terry@eecea.eece.ksu.edu Manhattan, KS 66502 >UUCP: rutgers!ksuvax1!eecea!terry --- David Fred dfred@sol.engin.umich.edu
mvadh@cbnews.ATT.COM (andrew.d.hay) (02/23/89)
this discussion has caused me to wonder: can a ctix sVr3 port run on a 3b1? enquiring minds want to know... -- Andrew Hay +------------------------------------------------------+ Apprentice Polymath | Yes, the wages of sin ARE death, but after they take | AT&T-BL Ward Hill MA | taxes out, it's kind of a tired feeling really | mvuxq.att.com!adh +------------------------------------------------------+
bms@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Bruce Schlobohm) (02/25/89)
In article <4271@cbnews.ATT.COM>, mvadh@cbnews.ATT.COM (andrew.d.hay) writes: > this discussion has caused me to wonder: > can a ctix sVr3 port run on a 3b1? CTIX 6.x is based on AT&T System V Release 3 (and higher). Early on in the 6.0 development cycle, 6.0 was to be supported on the 3b1 (which was to be sold by CT as the S/50 or S/51), miniframe, and the "mightyframe" (now known as S/MT Series) machines. Then somewhere along the way, the decision was made to just work on the S/MT Series. Since then, we have removed many of the #ifdefs for the unixpc, and I'm quite sure that the current release (CTIX 6.1) kernel will not run on a unixpc. -- Bruce Schlobohm bms@Convergent.COM -or- {pyramid,sri-unix,pacbell}!ctnews!bms
john@hcr.UUCP (John R. MacMillan) (02/26/89)
In article <564@eecea.eece.ksu.edu> terry@eecea.eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull) writes: |> |> 3) Has anyone seen a PD korn shell for the CTIX machines? |There are NO public-domain versions of ksh available. Well, that's not quite true; I'm using the alpha-test version of one now. It's fair to say that there are no PD versions _widely_ available. And even if the one I'm using never gets released, the GNU Bourne Again Shell is supposed to support ksh features when it becomes available. -- John R. MacMillan Wasn't me she was foolin' 'cause she knew HCR Corporation what she was doin' when she told me how to {utzoo,utcsri}!hcr!john awk this way -- Ahosmith