[comp.sys.att] Fast/Slow 6386s

droman@vsi.COM (Dave Droman) (02/23/89)

I have a customer who is running two (almost) identical 6386 16Mz systems.
One has a 135MB ESDI drive and the other has a 40MB ST506 drive; both have
4MB RAM.

Both the systems are running ix386 and VP/IX and the identical applications.
The 40MB is "blowing the doors off" the 135MB.  Indeed, DOS applications under
VP/IX are actually reasonable on the 40.  

Any suggestions on this inconsistancy and how I might go about
making the 135 run as the 40 is running?

Any consideration by those in the know will be appreciated.

Dave
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fmcgee@cuuxb.ATT.COM (~XT6510300~Frank McGee~C23~M24~6326~) (02/25/89)

In article <1060@vsi.COM> droman@vsi.COM (Dave Droman) writes:
>
>I have a customer who is running two (almost) identical 6386 16Mz systems.
>One has a 135MB ESDI drive and the other has a 40MB ST506 drive; both have
>4MB RAM.
>
>Both the systems are running ix386 and VP/IX and the identical applications.
>The 40MB is "blowing the doors off" the 135MB.  Indeed, DOS applications under
>VP/IX are actually reasonable on the 40.  
>
>Dave
>-- 
>David C. Droman				      {uunet!attmail}!vsi!droman
>V-Systems, Inc.				              droman@vsi.com
>(714) 545-6442                                           GREEAAT!!!

You might want to check which controller versions you have, there are
3:1 and 1:1 versions of both the ESDI and ST 506 controllers.  It's
conceivable that a 1:1 ST 506 could beat out a 3:1 ESDI.  On the back of
the controller there should be a small white tag that identifies the
controller as :
	a WD 1003-WAH (3:1 ST 506)
	a WD 1006-WAH (1:1 ST 506)
	a WD 1005-WAH (3:1 ESDI)
	a WD 1007A-WAH (1:1 ESDI)

Remember that if you decide to upgrade to a 1:1 controller you have to
back up the drive and re-do your low-level formats.  Also, since you
have 4 MB you might want to look at Chapter 5 in the System V/386 Release
3.2 Operations/System Administration Guide; it recommends some tunables
you can adjust to get better performance.

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Frank McGee
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psrc@pegasus.ATT.COM (Paul S. R. Chisholm) (02/26/89)

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In article <1060@vsi.COM>, droman@vsi.COM (Dave Droman) writes:
> I have a customer who is running two (almost) identical 6386 16Mz systems.
> One has a 135MB ESDI drive and the other has a 40MB ST506 drive; both have
> 4MB RAM.
> 
> Both the systems are running ix386 and VP/IX and the identical applications.
> The 40MB is "blowing the doors off" the 135MB.  Indeed, DOS applications under
> VP/IX are actually reasonable on the 40.  

I certainly imagine that, all other things being equal, the EDSI drive
should be much faster than the ST-506.  The most obvious thing that's
*not* equal is the size of the disks.

Maybe it's the layout of the file systems?  Ideally, you should keep
all of your most frequently accessed files (and file systems) near one
another on the disk.  If the big disk is divided up into lots of large,
mostly empty file systems, the head will spend a lot of its time
travelling over unused tracks.  Unfortunately, I can't think of a good
way to measure this; and fixing this involves backing up and restoring
most of your hard disk.

The other thing to check is how well-cached the disks are.  If the 40M
system is setting a lot of RAM aside for the disk cache, I'd expect it
to really hum.  (Make sure they both have all 32-but memory, too.  Just
a thought.)

> David C. Droman				      {uunet!attmail}!vsi!droman
> V-Systems, Inc.				              droman@vsi.com
> (714) 545-6442                                           GREEAAT!!!

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