[net.movies] Special Effects in The Right Stuff

mac@allegra.UUCP (11/02/83)

	A previous review said that the special effects in
	The Right Stuff were "negligible".

	BULL!

	The SFX were so well done that it's very hard to tell what is real 
	historical footage and what is new SFX film...

	Did you really think that they took full color wide-screen
	footage of the launching of the X-1 that Chuck Yaeger flew?
	Of course not!  But the SFX in the movie made it look very
	real.  Ditto for the last flight scenes of the film.

	"Kids" (those who don't remember watching the Mercury
	missions on TV) probably won't appreciate the film -
	they're used to Star Wars stuff, and the more reliable
	Apollo missions.

	Jim McParland
	AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ
	allegra!mac

rene@umcp-cs.UUCP (11/04/83)

I think one of the most effective special effects was the plane(s)
FALLING. I really don't think they dropped a plane however many
thousands of feet up that was, and then filmed close ups and distance
shots of it falling. It looked real to me, though. No special effects?
And what about the scenes with JFK and the actors - do you really
think they got actors who all looked EXACTLY like the people in the
newsreels? As I hear it, they used a very expensive process also used
by Woody Allen in Zelig. Anybody know any more about this?

					- rene
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dp@astrovax.UUCP (Debbie Padgett) (11/04/83)

I have it on good authority that the airplane scenes
were done by slingshooting models past the camera.
Not exactly high-class "stuff" for $27 M, folks.
			      
			      dp

wombat@uicsl.UUCP (11/04/83)

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uicsl!wombat    Nov  3 14:21:00 1983

Another note on the SFX in "The Right Stuff": They were done by a couple
of small-time SFX-ers in their garage. I haven't seen the film itself
yet, but I've heard that the effects are very good for the money
spent on them. And people really up on aviation/rocketry history
may notice a few things that aren't completely authentic, but some
of the old vehicles they would have liked to have used just aren't
around anymore.
Some of the actors met with and talked to the people they
were potraying, though most didn't (at least not until
after the filming), and the director didn't encourage anyone to.
There was a certain amount of poetic license taken in the film,
but mostly they tried to stick to the book.
						Wombat
						ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat

speaker@umcp-cs.UUCP (11/05/83)

The special effects in "The Right Stuff" consisted mainly
of models and motion control stuff against fake backdrops.
Some were dropped against a real sky... I think they used
some radio controled models too.  Basic stuff.

The flames on the mercury capsule were actually clouds
of Nitrogen in a strong artificial wind, heavily lit
with orange and red lights.

The Zelig effects were done with some very sophisticated
computer imaging.  'Ultimat' I think is the name of one
of the processes used.  ANyone know anything more about
this?
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notes@ucbcad.UUCP (11/11/83)

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ucbcad!kalash    Nov  4 08:52:00 1983

	The most interesting thing (at least to me) about the effects
for "The Right Stuff" is that ILM originaly did them, but they were all
scrapped because they were "too good". They would have looked very
different then the rest of the movie, and interfered with the story.
As a result, $1 million in special effects fall on the floor.

			Joe Kalash

eich@uiuccsb.UUCP (11/12/83)

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uiuccsb!eich    Nov 11 22:32:00 1983

ILM did not "originally do them" (the sfx).  ILM had too tight a
schedule to consider them (first with Star Trek II + Poltergeist + ET,
then with Return of the Jedi).  Phil Kaufman from the start was in
favor of seat-of-the-pants, low-tech effects.