[comp.sys.att] terminals emulated on the 3b1 -- what's available?

erict@flatline.UUCP (J. Eric Townsend) (06/19/89)

Besides the stock emulations that come with the 3b1 out of the
box, what else is available?  I've played with a Tektronix 4014
emulator and.... that's about it.

I'd like to have a VT200, for instance.  Anything else would be
nice, just to make computing at the university much easier.

How about a VT100 terminal with redefinable keys?  I'd love
to be able to use the cursor keys instead of f5-f8, and to
be able to map all the other keys into things I want to use.
Maybe just macros, if nothing else.  (O, where are all the unix
equivs of the terminal programs I used on the C64? :-)

Oh well.  Enough whining for now. :-P
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hjespersen@trillium.waterloo.edu (Hans Jespersen) (06/20/89)

In article <744@flatline.UUCP> erict@flatline.UUCP (J. Eric Townsend) writes:

>Maybe just macros, if nothing else.  (O, where are all the unix
>equivs of the terminal programs I used on the C64? :-)

Mostly, they don't exist. Unlike a C=64 (hey I own one) UNIX machines
have the ability to handle many different terminals (thru termcap or
terminfo). 

However, there is a vt100 terminal emulator for the UNIXpc ( from AT&T ).
It's called Asyncronous Terminal Emulator (ATE) but I don't know if it's
part of the development set or what. Anyone else?

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jdc@naucse.UUCP (John Campbell) (06/20/89)

From article <744@flatline.UUCP>, by erict@flatline.UUCP (J. Eric Townsend):
: 
: 
: Besides the stock emulations that come with the 3b1 out of the
: box, what else is available?  I've played with a Tektronix 4014
: emulator and.... that's about it.
: 

You're wealthier than I.  Does this imply there is a public domain
Tektronix 4014 emulator waiting to run on my 3b1? 
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rwright@novavax.UUCP (Ronald K. Wright) (06/20/89)

The only program which I am aware is ATE 3.51 from AT&T

While it fully integrates with the user agent program, it is disgustingly
slow.

I have abandoned it completely in favor of cu.  That does present a problem
if you wish to log onto a not unix system.  But then why would you want to
do that?

rkw

richard@islenet.UUCP (Richard Foulk) (06/21/89)

} : Besides the stock emulations that come with the 3b1 out of the
} : box, what else is available?  I've played with a Tektronix 4014
} : emulator and.... that's about it.
} : 
} 
} You're wealthier than I.  Does this imply there is a public domain
} Tektronix 4014 emulator waiting to run on my 3b1? 

Yes, there's an ATE replacement that does slow 4014 emulation.
I got mine from The Store.


Richard

kevin@kosman.UUCP (Kevin O'Gorman) (06/22/89)

In article <1350@novavax.UUCP> rwright@novavax.UUCP (Ronald K. Wright) writes:
>The only program which I am aware is ATE 3.51 from AT&T
>
>While it fully integrates with the user agent program, it is disgustingly
>slow.
>
>I have abandoned it completely in favor of cu.  That does present a problem
>if you wish to log onto a not unix system.  But then why would you want to
>do that?

Not a serious question, I hope.  I, for one, make my living by calling
non-UNIX systems, on both coasts of the country, for sessions lasting up
to 24 hours.  I get real sensitive to the quality of my tools.  My tool
of choice these days is C-kermit, even for systems without a kermit of
their own.  The one drawback is that in such a case, I cannot send files
to the remote system, although I can capture incoming data.  I'm using
Trailblazer modems, and most of my sites have them too, so the conversations
are mostly error-free.

When I have to send a file, I tend to return to PCOMM.  The curses interface
slows this down a lot, but I don't send nearly as much as I capture, so I
can live with it.

erict@flatline.UUCP (J. Eric Townsend) (06/22/89)

In article <1500@naucse.UUCP> jdc@naucse.UUCP (John Campbell) writes:
>From article <744@flatline.UUCP>, by erict@flatline.UUCP (J. Eric Townsend):
>: I've played with a Tektronix 4014
>: emulator and.... that's about it.

>You're wealthier than I.  Does this imply there is a public domain
>Tektronix 4014 emulator waiting to run on my 3b1? 


I played with a 4014 emulator that an ex-AT&T friend of mine had.
I dunno if it was available for general distribution.
Unfortunately, it's part of the async_main stuff, and it's a huge
pain in the ass.  Fer instance:  it's default is 4014.  After you
get a modem connect you can switch back to vt100.  The 4014 sends
all sorts of garbage when it connects, which usually blows up normal
bbs's.


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wjc@ho5cad.ATT.COM (Bill Carpenter) (06/24/89)

In article <755@flatline.UUCP> erict@flatline.UUCP (J. Eric Townsend) writes:

> I played with a 4014 emulator that an ex-AT&T friend of mine had.
> I dunno if it was available for general distribution.

There was a 4014 version of the terminal emulator available from THE
STORE!  I don't recall if it was included in the public part when the
split was made.  I am pretty sure that it didn't change after it first
appeared in THE STORE!, so the vt100 part of the terminal emulator is
probably of about 2.0 vintage.

> Fer instance:  it's default is 4014.  After you
> get a modem connect you can switch back to vt100.  The 4014 sends

This was not the case with the 4014EM that I played with.  Perhaps you
had a different version (or a different program altogether).
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