[comp.sys.att] 6386 WGS Questions

dab@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (david.a.berk) (11/09/89)

1) I'm contemplating buying a Perstore Hard Disk Controller which is
   supposed to increase my hard disk capacity by a factor of 1.9.
   Does anyone have any advise or experiences using this board with
   AT&T System V.3.2 Unix ?  (Perstore informed me that it has been 
   tested on Interactive Unix and runs well).

2) I bought a 60 meg Tape Backup unit from Bell Tech. about a year ago.
   Can the AT&T Tape Backup read from a Intel Tape and vica versa.
   
3. Can the 6386 read a floppy witten by a 3b2 ?


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					Dave Berk

psfales@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (Peter Fales) (11/09/89)

In article <6358@cbnewsm.ATT.COM>, dab@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (david.a.berk) writes:

> 3. Can the 6386 read a floppy witten by a 3b2 ?

I you mean mount a floppy with 3b2 file system, the answer is no.  However,
I have transferred cpio archives written to the raw floppy in both 
directions between a 3b2 and 6386 WGS.  Use /dev/rdsk/f05qt.

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fmcgee@cuuxb.ATT.COM (~XT6561110~Frank McGee~C23~L25~6326~) (11/10/89)

In article <6358@cbnewsm.ATT.COM> dab@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (david.a.berk) writes:
>1) I'm contemplating buying a Perstore Hard Disk Controller which is
>   supposed to increase my hard disk capacity by a factor of 1.9.
>   Does anyone have any advise or experiences using this board with
>   AT&T System V.3.2 Unix ?  (Perstore informed me that it has been 
>   tested on Interactive Unix and runs well).

You'll need a Unix disk driver for the Perstore controller; AT&T
doesn't provide this.  The exception would be if the controller was
hardware compatible with a Western Digital ST506 or ESDI controller.
Notice my emphasis on hardware compatibility, not software.  Since
Unix doesn't use the ROM BIOS, BIOS extensions (ie, a ROM that makes
the controller look like a Western Digital) doesn't buy you anything.
It has to look like a Western Digital without the use of any ROM BIOS
extensions.  Also, the AT&T boot floppies won't recognize it since
they don't know about Perstore controllers.

>2) I bought a 60 meg Tape Backup unit from Bell Tech. about a year ago.
>   Can the AT&T Tape Backup read from a Intel Tape and vica versa.

If you are running under Unix, the Bell Tech unit should be portable
with AT&T units.  Be carefull of media incompatibilities; it's a good
idea to make sure all your drives use the same density.  This is
because although a 120/125 MB tape drive can read a 60 MB tape, it
can't write a 60 MB tape.  So if you have one machine with a 120 MB
unit and one with a 60 MB unit, you can't transfer data from the 120
MB machine to the 60 MB machine (although you can go the other way).

>3. Can the 6386 read a floppy witten by a 3b2 ?

File systems - no (byte ordering).

cpio archives - yes, if you use the -c (ascii header compatibility 
option).  The proper device nodes for 3B floppies on 386 unix are
suffixed with "5qt" (for example /dev/dsk/f05qt or /dev/rdsk/f05qt).

Hope this answers your question,

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Frank McGee, AT&T
Tier 3 Indirect Channel Sales Support
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gerry@zds-ux.UUCP (Gerry Gleason) (11/11/89)

In article <4615@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> psfales@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (Peter Fales) writes:
>In article <6358@cbnewsm.ATT.COM>, dab@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (david.a.berk) writes:
>> 3. Can the 6386 read a floppy witten by a 3b2 ?

>I you mean mount a floppy with 3b2 file system, the answer is no.  However,
>I have transferred cpio archives written to the raw floppy in both 
>directions between a 3b2 and 6386 WGS.  Use /dev/rdsk/f05qt.

Wait a minute, if you can read the physical format, you should be able to
mount it.  Isn't a System V file system a System V file system (with the
possible exception of version skews).

What gives?

Gerry Gleason

les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) (11/13/89)

In article <4615@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> psfales@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (Peter Fales) writes:

>> 3. Can the 6386 read a floppy witten by a 3b2 ?

>I you mean mount a floppy with 3b2 file system, the answer is no.  However,
>I have transferred cpio archives written to the raw floppy in both 
>directions between a 3b2 and 6386 WGS.  Use /dev/rdsk/f05qt.

The 3B2 uses the last track of the otherwise normal 720K format for its
own purposes.  Thus, transfers with other machines would be limited to
archives that fit on a single disk unless you do some tricky stuff
to merge the pieces.

Les Mikesell
 les@chinet.chi.il.us

randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess) (11/13/89)

In article <1989Nov13.145552.5367@chinet.chi.il.us> les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
]
]The 3B2 uses the last track of the otherwise normal 720K format for its
]own purposes.  Thus, transfers with other machines would be limited to
]archives that fit on a single disk unless you do some tricky stuff
]to merge the pieces.

	Uh, if you mean a 386 machine reading 3b2 floppies via cpio,
	it works fine on multiple floppy archives.  I do it all the
	time.  Seems cpio could care less that the last track is
	bogus.  How do you think your humongus $HOME directory got
	transfered from the 3b2 to the 386, Les???

-randy
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Randy Suess
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