wjc@ho5cad.ATT.COM (Bill Carpenter) (02/18/90)
On 17 Feb 90 18:50:42 GMT, lenny@icus.islp.ny.us (Lenny Tropiano) said:
lenny> I don't know how they work, or if they work at all. I'm not
lenny> fortunate to own (or work with) a 630 terminal... but the
lenny> xt-layers, and appropriate drivers was already ported to the
lenny> UNIX pc. You'll find it part of the 3.51 Development Set
Now for the quasi-bad news. You can't dial into your UNIXpc on ph0/1
and run layers. I forget the exact failure mode, but I think "layers"
claimed ph1 wasn't a tty. ("Oh, yeah? Sez who?")
Layers worked okay for me on tty000. However, a long time ago I
called the hotline to ask about the deal on ph lines. The guy I
talked with was surprised that I could get layers to work at all. He
claimed there were big time bugs and recommended I not use it, etc.
Well, like I said, it worked okay for me on tty000, but maybe it's one
of those things that works for some people and not for others.
(I don't know nuthin' about the bugs or the port of layers to the
UNIXpc. I'm just telling you what the guy told me.)
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Bill Carpenter att!ho5cad!wjc or attmail!billlenny@icus.islp.ny.us (Lenny Tropiano) (02/18/90)
In article <832@argon.UUCP> ebh@argon.UUCP (Ed Horch) writes: [...] |>Also, I seem to remember hearing that somebody had ported the /dev/xt |>driver for 630/5620/Blit terminals to the Unix PC. Is this available |>anywhere? I have a 630 at work and would love to be able to run |>layers when I log into argon from there. |> I don't know how they work, or if they work at all. I'm not fortunate to own (or work with) a 630 terminal... but the xt-layers, and appropriate drivers was already ported to the UNIX pc. You'll find it part of the 3.51 Development Set AT&T Windowing Utilities (xt/layers) 100666 root 4 Apr 13 11:46:07 1987 Size 100666 root 401 Apr 13 11:46:07 1987 Files 100666 root 2041 Apr 13 11:52:31 1987 Install 100666 root 37 Apr 13 11:46:07 1987 Name 100666 root 1011 Apr 13 11:46:08 1987 Remove 100755 lenny 22303 Apr 13 11:46:11 1987 bin/ismpx 100755 lenny 22055 Apr 13 11:46:14 1987 bin/jterm 100755 lenny 22179 Apr 13 11:46:16 1987 bin/jwin 104755 root 61519 Apr 13 11:46:25 1987 bin/layers 100755 lenny 25021 Apr 13 11:46:28 1987 bin/xtd 100755 lenny 26503 Apr 13 11:46:32 1987 bin/xts 100755 lenny 26823 Apr 13 11:46:36 1987 bin/xtt 40755 lenny 0 Apr 13 11:46:43 1987 layersys 104755 lenny 30425 Apr 13 11:46:41 1987 layersys/relogin 100755 lenny 7172 Apr 13 11:46:42 1987 layersys/lsys.8;7;3 100755 lenny 1780 Apr 13 11:46:42 1987 layersys/set_enc.j 100644 lenny 0 Apr 13 11:46:42 1987 layersys/lsys.8;7;5 100644 lenny 0 Apr 13 11:46:42 1987 layersys/lsys.8;0;5 100755 lenny 39308 Apr 13 11:46:47 1987 layersys/wtinit 100644 lenny 12493 Apr 13 11:46:50 1987 xt.o 100644 root 2162 Apr 13 11:46:50 1987 libwindows.a 100444 root 1607 Apr 13 11:46:50 1987 windows.h 100444 root 4880 Apr 13 11:46:51 1987 xt.h 100444 root 4842 Apr 13 11:46:52 1987 xtproto.h 100444 root 1873 Apr 13 11:46:53 1987 jioctl.h 630 blocks ^^ [cute number of blocks :-)] If anyone is selling a DMD/blit terminal let me know :-) Although MGR gives me the look and feel on the console... -Lenny -- | Lenny Tropiano ICUS Software Systems lenny@icus.islp.ny.us | | {ames,pacbell,decuac,hombre,sbcs,attctc}!icus!lenny attmail!icus!lenny | +------- ICUS Software Systems -- PO Box 1; Islip Terrace, NY 11752 -------+
lenny@icus.islp.ny.us (Lenny Tropiano) (02/19/90)
In article <WJC.90Feb17204827@hoswjc.ho5cad.ATT.COM> william_j_carpenter@ATT.COM (Bill Carpenter) writes: |>lenny> I don't know how they work, or if they work at all. I'm not |>lenny> fortunate to own (or work with) a 630 terminal... but the |>lenny> xt-layers, and appropriate drivers was already ported to the |>lenny> UNIX pc. You'll find it part of the 3.51 Development Set |> |>Now for the quasi-bad news. You can't dial into your UNIXpc on ph0/1 |>and run layers. I forget the exact failure mode, but I think "layers" |>claimed ph1 wasn't a tty. ("Oh, yeah? Sez who?") |> [...] You might *try* to link /dev/phN to /dev/ttyphN. I've seen programs that strncmp(ttydevice, "/dev/tty", 8) to check for the validity of the tty devices. I don't know if this is *one* of those :-> -Lenny -- | Lenny Tropiano ICUS Software Systems lenny@icus.islp.ny.us | | {ames,pacbell,decuac,hombre,sbcs,attctc}!icus!lenny attmail!icus!lenny | +------- ICUS Software Systems -- PO Box 1; Islip Terrace, NY 11752 -------+
dave) (02/19/90)
I have an AT&T 615 terminal and it is on tty000. Anyway, I have no problems
running layers. I haven't noticed any bugs or glitches in the past 2 1/2 years
of using the 615 w/layers. I do know for a fact that layers will NOT run on
any type of port other than a direct connect tty port. This info was also
confirmed by those wonderful(?) people at the AT&T Hotline.
As far as layers coming with the Development Set, I had to get a special disk
from my AT&T VAR to run layers.
DAS
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