[comp.sys.att] 3B2 Interest Group

mdv@comtst.UUCP (Mike Verstegen) (10/01/90)

	[I tried to mail this, but the mail with either bang or
	domain addressing bounced.]

In article <24653@adm.BRL.MIL> abc@adm.BRL.MIL (Brinton Cooper) writes:

>
>The recently posted questions, answers, and hints about the UNIX PC are
>a very good idea, especially for someone who is not sure what questions
>to ask.
>
>Is there someone out there who is sufficiently knowledgable about the
>ATT 3B2 to do the same for that machine?
> [...]
>Perhaps it's time for comp.sys.att.homebrew or, perhaps,  an e-mail list
>for "3B2 users."  If you're interested in a list, send  me e-mail. I
>don't promise anything, but I have a dozen names of folks in the same
>boat.
>
>_Brinton Cooper		BRL - Where "Research" is our Middle Name.

We're in the boat! We're long time 3B2 users that feel stranded with all the
interesting stuff going on on the Suns, the HPs, and the PC/Unix platforms.
I too am interested in getting gcc, et. al. on a 3B2, but I really don't
have the time to hack through it all myself. If you start a mailing list,
put us on it. I don't claim to be an expert, but I have solved a few sticky
3B2 problems that someone else could benefit from.

Mike
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len@giza.cis.ohio-state.edu (Len Rose) (10/03/90)

 Perhaps you aren't aware of this. There has been specific newsgroups
 created for 3B2 Systems. They have been in existence for over a year.
 They are:

 u3b.config
 u3b.misc
 u3b.sources
 u3b.tech

 The Info-3b2 mailing list is the hands of the United States Secret Service.
 There is little I can do about that until after February 1991. If you
 have things to share with other 3B2 people, or have questions, there are
 alot of excellent resources available to you in the form of experts like
 Steve Friedl and a myriad assortment of AT&T employees only too willing to
 lend a hand.

 For more information regarding the u3b heirarchy , please read Spaf's
 Alternative Newsgroup document posted monthly in news.lists (I believe).

 

 Len


 "We are only interested in 911 source code" said Timothy Foley...

clear@actrix.co.nz (Charlie Lear) (10/05/90)

In article <84314@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> len@giza.cis.ohio-state.edu (Len Rose) writes:
>  They are:
>  u3b.config
>  u3b.misc
>  u3b.sources
>  u3b.tech

I'm well aware of them, but unfortunately they don't get anywhere
near New Zealand. I am entirely dependent on this newsgroup and on
mail to keep up-to-date. By the same token, I don't want to get
people het up by leaving any more "I've-got-a-3B2-hassle-help!"
articles in what is plainly a generic AT&T newsgroup.

So I'll try to keep my postings down to one every couple of weeks...
8-)

Latest news for those who have been following my saga with interest
(especially those who have been good enough to email me) is that I
can't get the uucp feed going and the primary hard disk gets bad
sectors at random in the root filesystem.

I've swapped both hard drives over, so the bad sectors are now
appearing in /usr. That I can live with, as I do frequent backups.
The New Zealand distributor of AT&T products lost their 3B2 guru
when he shifted to England a year ago, and they can't find *any*
technical documentation or diagnostic disks that would enable me to
do a low-level format. Such is life.

Re the news problem, this is what happens: (initial stuff deleted)
7.0 (kaukau.comp.vuw.ac.nz) (ttyp2)^M^J^M^M^J^Mlogin:got it
sendthem (bearcave^M)
expect: (word:)
 ^Jlogin: bearcave^JPassword:got it
sendthem (pwd^M)
Login Successful: System=vuwcomp
wmesg 'U'g
Proto started g
wmesg 'H'
Remote Requested: vuwcomp!D.vuwcof9d189f --> bearcav!D.vuwcof9d189f
(news)
wmesg 'S'Y

Here is where it hangs. Just sits there. Bummer. Then it eventually
fails with:
send OO 0,Conversation Complete: Status FAILED

Any clues, however tiny, would be incredibly appreciated. Of my last
"can't get into firmware" panic messages, it was just one tip in
email that allowed me (and the NZ technical support guys) to get it
going again. That was the terminal having to be set to N81 else
firmware mode wouldn't work. So don't think that you need hold back
on a trivial or obvious suggestion - everything is welcomed.

As a final note, I could very shortly be on my own: the last
remaining five 3B2 systems in NZ will be decommissioned in a couple
of months and may find their way overseas. Help me wave the AT&T
flag! 8-)

Regards
 Charlie Lear ( clear@actrix.co.nz )

pcalhoun@attcan.UUCP (Pat Calhoun) (10/12/90)

In article <1990Oct5.033149.28901@actrix.co.nz>, clear@actrix.co.nz (Charlie Lear) writes:
> 
> Re the news problem, this is what happens: (initial stuff deleted)
> 7.0 (kaukau.comp.vuw.ac.nz) (ttyp2)^M^J^M^M^J^Mlogin:got it
> sendthem (bearcave^M)
> expect: (word:)
>  ^Jlogin: bearcave^JPassword:got it
> sendthem (pwd^M)
> Login Successful: System=vuwcomp
> wmesg 'U'g
> Proto started g
> wmesg 'H'
> Remote Requested: vuwcomp!D.vuwcof9d189f --> bearcav!D.vuwcof9d189f
> (news)
> wmesg 'S'Y
> 
> Here is where it hangs. Just sits there. Bummer. Then it eventually
> fails with:
> send OO 0,Conversation Complete: Status FAILED
> 

O.K., first of all you'll have to check what really happened when the
uucp failed. There are a number of possibilities, could be permissions,
configuration of your modems, etc.

So, to begin, type uulog <system name> at both systems. This will give you
a log of all activity (depending on config, they usually get deleted at
midnight, so you might want to try the uucp before doing this - then wait
a bit for the log files to get updated).

I have a strong feeling that the last line will look something like
(Expected 'S' Got ''). This is a flow control problem. check your modems
configuration to make sure the flow control is disabled (as you can imagine,
it's highly possible that binary files contain DC1-DC3's).

I would then check the permissions. 

Try the above and if it still doesn't work, send me an e-mail.


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