[comp.sys.att] Mystery connectors...

greg@gagme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) (12/13/90)

Ok, I know what an ACU Modem adapter is, and what a
Terminal/Printer adapter is, but what are:

Remote/Console   (Part No. 232 21 25 008)
	-and-
355 AF

What are these?  They both have RJ-45 on one end, and DB-25 on
the other.

-greg

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cmilono@netcom.UUCP (Carlo Milono) (12/15/90)

In article <957@gagme.chi.il.us> greg@gagme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) writes:
>
>Ok, I know what an ACU Modem adapter is, and what a
>Terminal/Printer adapter is, but what are:
>
>Remote/Console   (Part No. 232 21 25 008)

----Remote/Console allows for faking out the CPU. For example, on some systems
the lack of a *real* System Console will cause the system to power-down
or panic...this can happen if the terminal is turned off, e.g. 
----In addition, you might want to have a modem as the console and to appear
to have DTR ready, but a modem is not a DTE, but a DCE...this adapter is
constructed to allow remote access to the console with the above mentioned
gotchas taken care of.

>	-and-
>355 AF

-----Another protection device...the 355 A has both resistors and diodes to
protect *precious* equipment.  I have seen it on ISN's especially, since the
range of the net can be so large that the exposure to harmful electric stuff
is greater...this RS232 adapter supposedly protects the equipment; I believe
that it comes in both ACU/Modem Male/Female and Terminal/Printer Male/Female.
I don't think that there are Remote/Console 355's.

>
>What are these?  They both have RJ-45 on one end, and DB-25 on
>the other.
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prg@mgweed.UUCP (Gunsul) (12/16/90)

In article <957@gagme.chi.il.us>, greg@gagme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) writes:
> 
> Ok, I know what an ACU Modem adapter is, and what a
> Terminal/Printer adapter is, but what are:
> 
> Remote/Console   (Part No. 232 21 25 008)
> 	-and-
> 355 AF

Hi Greg!

Looking at the back of the Remote/Console connector (modular jack side that
is), with the locking pin slot down toward the floor, the number 1 pin
is to the left...


		Modular					RS-232-C

		1 ------yellow-------------------------- 1
		2 ------red----------------------------- 5
		3 ------blue---------------------------- 2

		4 --|				     |-- 8
		6 --|--------------------------------|-- 20

		5 ------black--------------------------- 3
		7 ------red/white----------------------- 7
		8 ------white--------------------------- 4

This is just like the ACU modem connector except for the short between 4&6
and 8&20.

As for the 355AF, this is a connector we use for our ISN to terminal
connections...  I'll try to draw it here in a simplified form, leaving of
the 'protection diodes' attached to pins 22, 7, 6 & 8 and 20.

		Modular					RS-232-C

		6 ------orange-------------------------- 2 
		5 ------white/blue---------------------- 3
		1 ------white/green------------/\/\/\--- 22
		4 ------blue---------------------------- 7
		2 ------green------------------/\/\/\-|- 6
						      |- 8
		3 ------white/orange-----------/\/\/\--- 20

		  ( The /\/\/\'s are 715 ohm resistors )

> -greg
> 
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dsc3rjs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Bob Stratton) (12/20/90)

In article <957@gagme.chi.il.us> greg@gagme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) writes:
>
>Ok, I know what an ACU Modem adapter is, and what a
>Terminal/Printer adapter is, but what are:
>
>Remote/Console   (Part No. 232 21 25 008)
>	-and-
>355 AF
>
>What are these?  They both have RJ-45 on one end, and DB-25 on
>the other.
>

Another good question I haven't found the time to answer is:

What is the "DTR" connector? It looks like those mentioned above,
and says "B46337541 DTR" with a lot # on the case.


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friedl@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US (Stephen J. Friedl) (12/20/90)

[ in a real netnews mood this evening! ]

Bob Stratton writes:
> 
> What is the "DTR" connector? It looks like those mentioned above,
> and says "B46337541 DTR" with a lot # on the case.

EPORTS supports hardware flow control on its CTS and RTS lines,
but many devices (printers, usually) use DTR for their busy
line.  The DTR connector is like a terminal printer adaptor
except DTR is routed where RTS usually is and CD and DTR on
the 3B2 side are jumpered.  This means that you no longer get
hangup-on-power-off but you do get hardware flow control.

Better is to build a connector that routes some always-high
signal on the termianl into the CD input on the 3B2 -- I often
find (oddly enough) that RTS is available for this.o

    Steve

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