[comp.sys.att] 3b1 and tape

derekp@gvlf9-m.gvl.unisys.com (02/12/91)

	I am interested in purchasing a tape unit for the 3b1 mainly
	for the ability to get large sources off of a SUN. To the
	best of my knowledge, the SUN can only write QIC-24 or QIC-150
	tapes. What few people I have talked to, say that the 3b1 tape
	is a 'fast floppy' format. What is 'fast floppy'?
	My reading of the manual refers to a 'qt' device driver that
	I assume comes with the tape unit. It seems that the 'qt'
	driver can read/write QIC-02 (QIC-II ??) tapes. 

	Can anyone tell me the straight scoop? Is it possible for me 
	to read tapes created on a SUN, on a 3b1 tape system? Is it 
	possible to make a SUN write a QIC-II format tape? If not
	is there any alternative tape systems available? I would much 
	rather find out BEFORE spending money, than after.

	Thanks.

mvadh@cbnews.att.com (andrew.d.hay) (02/12/91)

In article <1991Feb11.211146.28794@news.gvl.unisys.com> derekp@gvlf9-m.gvl.unisys.com () writes:
"	I am interested in purchasing a tape unit for the 3b1 mainly
"	for the ability to get large sources off of a SUN. To the
"	best of my knowledge, the SUN can only write QIC-24 or QIC-150
"	tapes. What few people I have talked to, say that the 3b1 tape
"	is a 'fast floppy' format. What is 'fast floppy'?
"	My reading of the manual refers to a 'qt' device driver that
"	I assume comes with the tape unit. It seems that the 'qt'
"	driver can read/write QIC-02 (QIC-II ??) tapes. 
"
"	Can anyone tell me the straight scoop? Is it possible for me 
"	to read tapes created on a SUN, on a 3b1 tape system? Is it 
"	possible to make a SUN write a QIC-II format tape? If not
"	is there any alternative tape systems available? I would much 
"	rather find out BEFORE spending money, than after.
"
"	Thanks.

i don't know what the qic-spec for the 3b1 tape is, but its capacity
is 23M/tape and it's driven off a modified floppy disk controller.
it's also quite rare and expensive.  the tape in the 3b2/300 & 400 is
compatible.
you might have better luck trying to find an ethernet interface for
your 3b1.

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pusateri@duke.cs.duke.edu (Thomas J. Pusateri) (02/13/91)

In article <1991Feb11.211146.28794@news.gvl.unisys.com> derekp@gvlf9-m.gvl.unisys.com () writes:
>
>	Can anyone tell me the straight scoop? Is it possible for me 
>	to read tapes created on a SUN, on a 3b1 tape system? Is it 
>	possible to make a SUN write a QIC-II format tape? If not

From the SunOS 4.1 st man page:


     For QIC-24 tape devices (Emulex MT-02 and Sysgen SC4000):
          /dev/rst[0-3]        QIC-11 Format
          /dev/rst[8-11]       QIC-24 Format
          /dev/rst[16-20]      QIC-24 Format
          /dev/rst[24-28]      QIC-24 Format
          /dev/nrst[0-3]       non-rewinding QIC-11 Format
          /dev/nrst[8-11]      non-rewinding QIC-24 Format
          /dev/nrst[16-19]     non-rewinding QIC-24 Format
          /dev/nrst[24-27]     non-rewinding QIC-24 Format

     Note:  The QIC-24 format is preferred over QIC-11 for Sun-3,
     Sun-3x, Sun-4, and Sun386i systems.


In summary, on the older shoebox tape drives, writing to rst0 gave you
QIC-11 while writing to rst8 gave you QIC-24. You can read from either
device and it will automatically switch to the write format.

If your 3b1 can write QIC-11 you should be in business!

Tom Pusateri
pusateri@nbsr.duke.edu