[comp.sys.apple] //GS compatability

BHUBER@USC-ECL.ARPA (03/16/87)

Don't dispair.  You are expressing the same feelings I have last December
about my upgrade, but everything works out okay. 

Re communications software:  I am using Mousetalk which is fully compatible
with the GS serial ports.  It is part of the AE Pro family from United
Software.  I understand there is a new package coming out from someone
named Greg Schafer (sp?) which is also GS compatible and includes Kermit.
Can't give you any pointers to that package.

Re cable for GS serial port to Hayes:  use a standard Apple cable (or make
one yourself).  The way Apple has designed the serial ports lets them work
like RS-232.  If you get the Apple cable for connecting an Imagewriter
printer to the Super Serial Card, it will work right out of the box.  That
is what I am running on now.

Re word processing software:  I have both Appleworks and Word Perfect.  I
find that I favor Appleworks because it is so friendly and mucho faster
than Word Perfect.

Re software development tools:  join APDA (Apple Programmer's and
Developer's Association). Phone: 206-251-6548.  My experience has been that
they are terribly backlogged.  Options:  use Apple APW shell or get Byte
Works Orca/M for the GS.  TML Pascal for the GS is (theoretically) shipping
as of last Friday (3/13).  Megamax reportedly is working up a C compiler,
but it is not ready yet.

If you are hot to start C programming, get both Byte Works Orca/GS shell and
Orca/M (version 4.1 is current).  Their Small-C compiler is a nifty subset
of C (integer only, but I don't really find that much of an inconvience).
You could then run the 8-bit shell under the 16-bit shell, which is nice
if you have a hard disk, but cumbersome otherwise.

Bud

P.S., I hope I addressed all the issues in your message.  Also, I have no
connection with companies mentioned above, except as a customer.

PPS, Byte Works is in Albuquerque NM.  I have never found a company more
supportive of their customer base than Byte Works.

delaney@wnre.aecl.CDN (Grant Delaney) (03/17/87)

  Well I've finally broken down and purchased a //GS but I'm still left
with the problen of SOFTWARE COMPATABILITY.  Talking to my local Apple 
dealer doesn't give me much help as they haven't received most of what
has been hinted at in the Magazines.  I need a good Telecomunications
program and a Wor processor since my old Apple Writer II won't work.
An any suggestions on Pascal or C software so I can access all the 
features. 

By the way has anyone found a source of serial port plugs Apple hasn't seen
fit to make a cable that will run to my Hayes Smartmodem and the IEEE manual
says I'll need to Jumper the RS422 to RS232.  Any one out there done it
yet I've done it with Full 422 on a Dec System but nut fully confident about
the apple port.

Any and all comments and suggestions welcome

Mark_E._Simmons.osbunorth@XEROX.COM (03/17/87)

You should be aware of the following general guideline in regards to
Apple IIGS compatibility to IIE software.

According to the Project and Product Managers for the IIGS,
incompatibilities with Apple II software generally occur when a
publisher used a copy protection scheme that did not follow Apple II
specs.  So, if a program is not copy protected, it is pretty safe to
assume that it will run on the IIGS.  If it is copy protected, proceed
with caution.

Note:  This does not mean all copy protected software won't work, only
those that did things outside the Apple II specs.

Hope you find this helpful.

--Mark

ranger@ecsvax.UUCP (Rick N. Fincher) (03/18/87)

Are you using the Prodos version of Applewriter?  If so there is a 
patch so that it will work with the //gs.  Apple makes an adapter cable
for the //gs that makes it look like a super serial card connector.  Just 
plug a SSC to Hayes cable into this to get it working with your modem.
You might also want to try the Mac plus to Imagewriter I cable, my modem
lets you select DCE/DTE so I can make this cable work.  I don't know 
about the Hayes though, you may need a null modem cable to make it work.

Rick Fincher
ranger@ecsvax