mcgurrin@MITRE.ARPA (05/26/87)
FYI, I understand that there is an article in Feb. 19ths EDN magazineine discussing a validated Ada compiler for the IBM PC/AT. This would seem to indicate that 640K is sufficient memory (I haven't read the article, so I don't know what swapping may or may not be occurring). I think two things inhibit an Ada for the Apple II, most important, PCs are what is used by most gov't and business sites, not Apple II's, and secondly, DoD trademarked Ada so that only true Ada could use the name, inhibiting anything like micro-Ada, small-Ada, etc. At least until recently, all Ada compilers, even on large machines, delivered slow code. Until good compilers appear for more commonly used machines (for this type of application that is), no one's going to bother with a relatively tiny market for Apple Ada. .
siritzky@acf2.UUCP (05/27/87)
The problems with putting Ada on a machine like the Mac have little to do with the language Ada, and a lot to do with the development software available on those machines. In the case of the Mac, I have tried all the available C compilers to port NYU's Ada/ED. All without success! Without going in to the specific problems each compiler had, none was able to deal with all of the source code. Most failed on some language construct which they did not implement correctly or at all, and all failed because of the 32K restriction on data segments. I know that this '32K' discussion has been hashed out before, but the bottom line is that it is a pain to live with. If you are writing a new program then maybe you can deal with the 32K restriction, but if you are porting an existing piece of software then it is much harder. Given the following circumstances 1. A decent, complete C compiler for the Mac 2. A removal of the 32K code/data segment restriction 3. About 1 man month we could probably port NYU Ada/ED to the Mac. Note that none of these requirements has anything to do with the language Ada itself. Brian Siritzky New York University Ada Project, 251 Mercer Street, New York, New York, 10012 Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.UUCP From: siritzky@acf2.UUCP (Brian Siritzky) Date: 27-May-87 13:06 EDT Date-Received: 27-May-87 13:06 EDT Subject: 32K limit and Ada on the Mac Message-ID: <170004@acf2.UUCP> Path: acf3!acf2!siritzky Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf2.UUCP Organization: New York University The problems with putting Ada on a machine like the Mac have little to do with the language Ada, and a lot to do with the development software available on those machines. In the case of the Mac, I have tried all the available C compilers to port NYU's Ada/ED. All without success! Without going in to the specific problems each compiler had, none was able to deal with all of the source code. Most failed on some language construct which they did not implement correctly or at all, and all failed because of the 32K restriction on data segments. I know that this '32K' discussion has been hashed out before, but the bottom line is that it is a pain to live with. If you are writing a new program then maybe you can deal with the 32K restriction, but if you are porting an existing piece of software then it is much harder. Given the following circumstances 1. A decent, complete C compiler for the Mac 2. A removal of the 32K code/data segment restriction 3. About 1 man month we could probably port NYU Ada/ED to the Mac. Note that none of these requirements has anything to do with the language Ada itself. Brian Siritzky New York University Ada Project, 251 Mercer Street, New York, New York, 10012 Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.UUCP From: sxw9233@acf3.UUCP (none) Date: 27-May-87 21:21 EDT Date-Received: 27-May-87 21:21 EDT Subject: Find Path Message-ID: <3380001@acf3.UUCP> Path: acf3!sxw9233 Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.UUCP Organization: New York University I was wondering if any of you can help me associate a song with its artist. The song is called "The path of least resistance" or something like that. I saw the song awhile back ago on some video show here in NY. If any of you know of the artist I am referring to, I would really appreciate if you would drop me a line. Thanks.