rre@ihlpg.ATT.COM (Velveteen Rabbit Corps) (07/13/87)
Hi. Just received the Apple Pascal Desktop Toolkit which, according to the APDA catalog, promised access to double-hires graphics (yea!), windowing (yea!) and the ability to use the mouse from Pascal (yea! yea!). I thought, wow, now I don't have to run off and buy that GS and go into debt, and still get windowing and mice in high-level language-dom. The demos are really quite nice. I especially like the full-blown toolkit for double-hires interface. The text is sharp and the windows are great. I haven't gotten the mousetext version to work, because there is no system.startup, and I keep getting a uniclear error=2 when I compile it under my system. Ah, but there's the rub. I said, "Okay, I'm not really clear yet how this toolkit stuff works. I'll try the graphics primitives first!" I tried my own program. It hung. I thought, "Hm. All these command lines that this program prints say '1.2'. My pascal is '1.3'. Maybe it only works in 64K (the manual never said anything about this). I changed my systems disk from 128K to 64K, and still, it hung. Okay, I say, "I know *nothing* about this stuff. I'll compile the sample program!" It didn't work in 128K. It didn't work in 64K. It cleared the screen and replaced it with garbage. Twice. So, I changed the SYSTEM.PASCAL and SYSTEM.APPLE on the demo disk (yes, I backed it up first) and booted it. Fine. Fine. Oops. It told me the SYSTEM.ATTACH was version 1.2 while the PASCAL and APPLE were 1.3 So what the hell? Why didn't anybody tell me that it wouldn't work. I'm really annoyed that there's no reference in the manual. BUT it says outright "This is only a test/blah/therefore don't expect miracles from this manual." Fine. It's so outdated it's talking about bringing out the rev-B motherboards for the //e. But couldn't the catalog say anything about this? I mean, I have the *latest* version of Apple Pascal. Do I have to go out and *buy* the 1.3 version of ATTACH? Had I known this, I could have saved another $6.00 on postage. Carambas. Anyway, does anyone have any hints on using the toolkit? Does it work under 1.3 at all, or should I just show the demos and start devoting all my energies into the ORCA/M I just got? Does it work under 128K system or 64K system? Enough said, I think. Roger Espinosa ihnp4!ihlpg!rre BTW- Thanks to everyone who contributed to my requests for GS info, printer info, and modem info. Thanks. -- Roger R. Espinosa Live from the Rabbit Ranch ihnp4!ihlpg!rre