[comp.sys.apple] Licensing rules for ProDOS.

hayes@wizard.ucsd.edu (James Hayes) (08/03/87)

When I am ready to mail DCOM 4.0 ProDOS, will I be able to put BASIC.SYSTEM
and PRODOS (v. 1.1.1) on the diskettes?  Do I have to become a certified 
developer or pay a licensing fee?

Any Apple employees (Larry, Mike, Byron?) know?
Anybody out there know?

Thanks,
Jim Hayes, University of California at San Diego.

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lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) (08/05/87)

Though I am not an Apple employee, I am a member of APDA and have read
articles either from that org. or from CIS which I believe to be the 
opinions of Apple.  I am sure that Richard or someone else will give an
official answer but let me start the ball rolling.

1. Prodos 8, v1.3 (maybe by the time you read this 1.4) is the official
Prodos to use on the IIe, c, and gs.

2. Apple requires a program publisher (one who distributes software on
a disk) to become a licensee of Apple's ProDos and Basic if they plan on
having these two programs on a disk that they sell.  The fees are supposedly
low (I have HEARD - please do not take this as the current prices) that in 
the past as low as $15 a year per product.  This may very well have increased
by now. 

3. The procedure is to call Apple and talk to one of the II series evangelists
for developers; I have no name or number for you to use however.  Perhaps
a local Apple dealer or the Apple regional rep could help you there.  Or
perhaps APDA if you are a member.  Finally, a last place to check, if you
have an account is the APPDEV forum onCIS, where this type of info is often
posted.

Good luck!  DCOM sounds great - I am DESPARATELY seeking a VT100 or better
emulator which will run on my GS port (as opposed to a card in a slot).
So far I have not gotten Medin's Kermit 3.76 to work - I am still waiting
answers on what files it needs to even start, let alone dial, etc.
Anyone out there use Kermit?

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nazgul@apollo.uucp (Kee Hinckley) (08/06/87)

You should license ProDOS and Basic.system.  I've done that with one program
that a company I am part of sold (Except in that case we only had to do DOS).
I think that the price is $50 for each, and you have to renew it each year.
You don't have to be a certified Apple Developer though.  I can dig up the
address to send for info if you want.

                                                    -nazgul


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lsr@apple.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) (08/06/87)

In article <3577@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> hayes@wizard.UUCP (James Hayes) writes:
>When I am ready to mail DCOM 4.0 ProDOS, will I be able to put BASIC.SYSTEM
>and PRODOS (v. 1.1.1) on the diskettes?  Do I have to become a certified 
>developer or pay a licensing fee?

I don't know the specific details about this particular software, but I can
describe the situation for the Macintosh.

If you want to distribute any of Apple's software with your products, you
will need to license them.  As far as I know, in these situations
(licensing system object code) Apple charges a nominal yearly fee, which
enitles you to distribute as many copies as you want with your product (ie,
there is no per-copy fee).  

I don't know all the licensing terms, but I don't think you have to be a
certified or registered developer.  

You should write to the software licensing department for more details:

	Software Licensing
	Apple Computer Inc.
	20525 Mariani  M/S 28-B
	Cupertino, CA 95014

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Apple Computer

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