[comp.sys.apple] PAT!!

MCL9337@TAMSTAR.BITNET (09/04/87)

This is for Pat Wolfe...

How can you complain about Applied Engineering when you have a Franklin??
You said yourself that the ad promised the RamFactor to work with the e, c,
and gs... NOT FRANKLIN!  As far as I'm concerned, I would never buy an Apple
compatible.  There are so many things that can go wrong.  Sure it's more expen-
sive to buy from Apple, but there are so many fewer compatibility problems you
will run into down the line.  As for the RamFactor, it WILL work with
"standard" CP/M... namely that supplied from MicroSoft (the SoftCard).  I have
a SoftCard //e myself.  No problems.  I can't understand why people want to
deviate from the "known standard" so much!  Sure the SoftCard was more... but
everything works with it!  I feel I got my money's worth.  I will never have to
do without something "because it won't work with my card" or something like
that.  Anyway... buy a new computer!

mcl9337@tamsMagU

kai@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu (09/07/87)

> You said yourself that the ad promised the RamFactor to work with the e, c,
> and gs... NOT FRANKLIN!

I never said that.  Buy an Apple magazine and read the ad yourself. It DOES
say that it works with Franklin.  And it does too.  It does not work with the
Apple IIc (no slots).  The booting problem is not specific to Franklins, it
happens to anyone with a regular old II or II+.

As far as I'm concerned, my Franklin blows away the Apple II+. Lowercase
displayed, lowercase dos and applesoft commands, numeric keypad, builtin
exhaust fan, and other features that Apple didn't offer until the IIe.

> As far as I'm concerned, I would never buy an Apple compatible.

Good for you.  In fact, the only problem I have had with compatibility was with
the serial port of the dual-port card that came with my Ace 1200. Once I got
the Apple SSC, everything works fine.  Including PRODOS, and anything else you
want to throw at it (skip the bricks).

> As for the RamFactor, it WILL work with
> "standard" CP/M... namely that supplied from MicroSoft (the SoftCard).  I have
> a SoftCard //e myself.  No problems.  I can't understand why people want to
> deviate from the "known standard" so much!  Sure the SoftCard was more... but
> everything works with it!  I feel I got my money's worth.

Who said MicroSoft's CP/M is the standard?  You?  Microsoft?  And where is it
printed that yours is the "known standard"?  As the well known saying goes,
"if there are multiple standards, there is NO standard". Besides, as far as
Applied Engineering goes, MicroSoft CP/M is NOT the standard, Applied
Engineering's Z80 Plus and their CP/AM 5.1 is.  I bought the PCPI CP/M ramdisk
software from Applied Engineering, so that must mean that my card is a
"standard CP/M" card too, right?

> Anyway... buy a new computer!

I'd love to.  Since you must be independantly wealthy (or an Apple salesman),
would you like to give me the six grand or so it would cost to buy a nice
Televideo Telecat 386 with UNIX V/386?

If I had enough money to buy another computer, it certainly wouldn't be an
Apple (or compatible), my Franklin is fine for the applications I use it for.



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