dowst@VLSI.JPL.NASA.GOV.UUCP (10/25/87)
If anywone wants my opinion (and nobody probably does), want ads and for sale ads ought not to be posted on the net. This is a function of local BBSs and newsletters. Oh well, I am probably showing my age. Henry Dowst
patth@dasys1.UUCP (Patt Haring) (10/30/87)
In article <871024184029.009@VLSI.JPL.NASA.GOV>, dowst@VLSI.JPL.NASA.GOV ("Henry P. Dowst") writes: > If anywone wants my opinion (and nobody probably does), want ads and > for sale ads ought not to be posted on the net. This is a function of > local BBSs and newsletters. Oh well, I am probably showing my age. > NO, Henry, you're not showing your age; but a little tolerance goes a long way. Interested in seeing how tolerant AMERICANS are? Take a peek at comp.society.futures - there's a battle raging over Amnesty International; also look in news.groups where A.I. bashing is becoming the norm. Sheesh, I thought this was an *information* service - do we really have net *censors* and net *gods* that say what can and canNOT be said? Take a trip around rec.humor - download a few epithets; hmmm, epithets are allowed to be posted on USENET/UUCP, etc. but Amnesty International and information about people being abused/tortured/kidnapped/murdered is *not* allowed? Please, give everyone a break; Poland is coming online - the USSR will soon be online if it's not already; perhaps if the net *gods* just ALLOW for Amnesty International then governments might take *people* seriously and not treat them like so much rubbish that can be discarded at the whim of a challenged official. Take yourSELF on over to news.groups and vote ** YES ** for Amnesty International or soc.human.rights so that everyone is not offended that one group has a newsgroup all its own like soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.celtic, soc.culture.indian. -- Patt Haring UUCP: ..cmcl2!phri!dasys1!patth Big Electric Cat Compu$erve: 76566,2510 New York, NY, USA MCI Mail: 306-1255; GEnie: PHaring (212) 879-9031 FidoNet Mail: 1:107/132 or 107/222
abc@BRL.ARPA (Brint Cooper) (10/31/87)
Patt, Henry P. Dowst writes, "... want ads and for sale ads ought not to be posted on the net. " You responded, in part, "Sheesh, I thought this was an *information* service - do we really have net *censors* and net *gods* that say what can and canNOT be said?" I am compelled to point out that, as a distribution list, Info-Apple originates on a Milnet (DoD side of Arpanet) host. The Government's regulations are clear: only traffic that can be construed as contributing to "official" government business is to be carried on Milnet hosts. While we cannot control what people post to the USENET, we must be aware: 1. that want ads and other personal news have been formally identified as not being of an "official" nature, 2. that the "technical" traffic and the posting of software ARE permitted and encouraged because of the large number of Apple computers being used in government offices and labs, 3. that the Milnet officials can, if they wish, shut down the distribution of Info-Apple and, indeed, of USENET news to all DoD computer sites, and 4. that these reasons are why it is not allowed to route mail from UUCP to Arpanet to UUCP. Like it or not, this applies to Info-Apple, Info-CPM, and others that originate on MILNET. I hope you will understand that we are not being "bureaucratic" when we remind users of these rules but are trying to protect and preserve as much openness as we presently have by not challenging the authorities to enforce the rules on us. _Brint Cooper AKA Info-Apple-Request