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From: Christopher Chung <CC004019%BROWNVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
To: info-apple@brl.arpa
Message-ID: <8712212351.aa09098@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA>
Subject: current list of users on apple2-l.

Here's the current list of users on the APPLE2-L list.  There are a few
addresses here that I am not sure are getting to people so if you
asked to be put on the list and have not received anything then check to
see if your name appears below.  If it does then send me mail saying so
and I will try another address.

Chris

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labovitz%etd1.decnet@afwal-aaa.arpa     Lt Stuart Labovitz
phil@aim.rutgers.edu                    Phil Ruff
tjohnson%sds-intel01@amc-hq.arpa        Todd Johnson
dh2y+@andrew.cmu.edu                    Holzlein Drew
gc1m+@andrew.cmu.edu                    Geoff Cox
friedman@aramis.rutgers.edu             Gadi Friedman
balamac@athena.MIT.EDU                  Brian LaMacchia
dryfoo@athena.mit.edu                   Gary L. Dryfoos
jik@athena.mit.edu                      Jonathan I. Kamens
abc@brl.arpa                            Brinton Cooper
CC005013@BROWNVM                        Apple Users Group of Brown University
ST501605@BROWNVM                        David John Burrowes
ST802414@BROWNVM                        Christopher Chung
POLLINGT@BYUVAX                         andy pollington
ct@caf.mit.edu                          Curtis Tsai
maciel@CAF.MIT.EDU                      Paul Maciel
DENI@CANISIUS                           Larry Deni
doug@catuc.uucp                         Douglas Morse
DEFFER@CGEUGE51                         ERIC DEFFERARD
SPGSPROS@CLARK-EMH.ARPA                 Jimmy Wright
mitched@coil.cs.orst.edu                Dean Mitchell
dtchen@cory.berkeley.edu                David Chen
kolding@cory.berkeley.edu               Eric Koldinger
nfong@cory.berkeley.edu                 Norman Fong
SAPONARA@CRNLTHRY                       John Saponara
ASUY@CRNLVAX1                           RAMIN FARZANEH
aehl@csd4.milw.wisc.edu                 Donald Aehl
daniel@csd4.milw.wisc.edu               Daniel Arndt
duncan@csd4.milw.wisc.edu               SHAN DUNCAN
neighbor@csd4.milw.wisc.edu             Jeffrey Alan Ding
zark@csd4.milw.wisc.edu                 Steven Kosloske
CHAA0024@DALAC                          Scott Logan
logan@dalcsug.uucp                      Scott Logan
mackay@dalcsug.uucp                     Daniel Mackay
FREDH@DARTCMS1                          Fred Helmstetter
UZR50D@DBNRHRZ1                         Ralf Schukey
boivin%kaou22.DEC@decwrl.dec.com        Ed Boivin
campanella%vicki.DEC@decwrl.dec.com     Michael J. Campanella
craparotta%kyoa.DEC@decwrl.dec.com      Joseph Craparotta
gallo%fstvax.DEC@decwrl.dec.com         tom gallo
viau%hpstek.DEC@decwrl.dec.com          CHARLES VIAU
plate@dicome.uucp                       Douglas B. Plate
carl@diku.uucp                          Fleischer Carl-Joergen
holst@diku.uucp                         Bo Holst-Christensen
MAT6013@DMZRZU71                        Matthias Kapffer
Rankins@DOCKMASTER.ARPA                 Raymond Rankins
dvac@drutx.uucp                         Daniel Vachon
SPARKS@DRYCAS                           Michael Yellin
JARENBERG@ecla.usc.edu                  Jeffrey Arenberg
tgt@ecn.purdue.edu                      Tom Tobin
EGAPMH@ECSVAX                           Paul M. Hudy
WCUDLH@ECSVAX                           DAVID HOOPER
ranger@ecsvax.uucp                      Rick Fincher
apollo!nazgul@EDDIE.MIT.EDU             Kee Hinckley
forde@eglin-vax.arpa                    Maj Eric S. Ford
palermo@ei.ecn.purdue.edu               Dan Palermo
balon@eneevax.umd.edu                   kevin balon
golds@eniac.seas.upenn.edu              David Goldstein
gmw8860@fedeva.uucp                     Mitch Wood
JMUNKKI@FINGATE                         Juri Munkki
rob@flume.dec.com                       Robert Chesler
scott@geowhiz.uucp                      Scott Kempf
IADT3TB@GITVM1                          terry banks
g-mccann@gumby.cs.wisc.edu              Lester I McCann
SJONES@HAMPVMS                          Steve Jones
DICKSON@HARTFORD                        Bill Dickson
SCHENKMA@HARTFORD                       jeff schenkman
NAKADA@HARVUNXU                         Paul Nakada
V50ZFYSO@HASARA11                       Jan Zegers
U00214@HASARA5                          JAN ZEGERS
U00230@HASARA5                          RON MULDER
ETSTMOL@HDETUD1                         Marcel Mol
DPOLLARD@HMCVAX                         Doug Pollard
deh%asbf-cs.huachuca-em.arpa@huachuca-em.arpa Dale Hazelwood
steep-mo-m@huachuca-em.arpa             John Shaver
knowles@inmet.inmet.com                 Richard J. Knowles
CDTAXW@IRISHMVS                         Mark Johnson
mark@isis.mit.edu                       Mark Kriegsman
BURTON@IUBACS                           Rex Burton
ask@j.cc.purdue.edu                     Scott Ksander
L64A0429@JHUVM                          Andrew P
jockc@killer.uucp                       Jock Cooper
canning@liszt.uucp                      Doug Canning
PGOETZ@LOYVAX                           Phil Goetz
rob@LUCIFER.UUCP                        rob clive
estell@m.cs.uiuc.edu                    John Estell
steve@mahendo.jpl.nasa.gov              Steve Schlaifer
KJJY@MARISTB                            Robert Rodriguez
C.STEINB%COOPER.UUCP@MCVAX              Craig Steinberger
CARL%DIKU.UUCP@MCVAX                    Carl-J|rgen Fleischer
KAMATH%REED.UUCP@MCVAX                  Sean Kamath
PATTH%DASYS1.UUCP@MCVAX                 Patt Haring
hkbirke@media-lab.media.mit.edu         Hal Birkeland
JONIB@MITVMA                            Joni Bubluski
jenkins@nadc.arpa                       Roger Jenkins
ted@nadc.arpa                           TED CALKINS
NETOPRWA@NCSUVM                         Wayne Aiken
NMWASSON@NDSUVAX                        John B. Wasson
NU070830@NDSUVM1                        bill thompson
NU092254@NDSUVM1                        Brian Dall
NU113596@NDSUVM1                        Tom Berglind
DAD@NIHCU                               Dale Wright
JDA@NIHCU                               Doug Ashbrook
schlichting@nusc.arpa                   Christine Schlichting
KSEAH@NUSDISCS                          Kenneth Seah
MEAD%hamal@oberon.USC.EDU               Richard Mead
FARRAR@OUACCVMB                         Craig Farrar
kegan@parsely.uucp                      Ron Whittle
JON@PITTVMS                             Jon M. Pearsall
JRK@PSUECLB                             Justin R. Keat
schumann@puff.cs.wisc.edu               Chris Schumann
Dave_Kopper%tzone.ceo.dg.com@RELAY.CS.NET Kopper Dave
INFO-APPLE2-L%UBC.CSNET@RELAY.CS.NET    CDNnet redistribution
LATINETTE1%ALBTSB%alcoa.com@RELAY.CS.NET William Latinette
BCR3458@RITVAX                          Blake C. Ramsdell
USEREAFJ@RPITSMTS                       Douglas Reuben
CRIMMINS@Russell.Stanford.EDU           CRIMMINS MARK
uwvax!uwmcsd1!marque!ddsw1!spl1!raj@RUTGERS.EDU Robert Johnson
ZZ1ML%SDCC3%SDCSVAX.UCSD.EDU@SDSC       Mick Laver
MEDIN-T@SHARK.NOSC.MIL                  Ted Medin
burton@silver.bacs.indiana.edu          Burton Rex
patrick@sol.uucp                        Patrick Bischoff
kus3@sphinx.uchicago                    Bob Kusumoto
raj@spl1.uucp                           Robert Alan Johnson
shankar@srcsip.uucp                     Subash Shankar
UGCULLEN@SUNYBCS                        Peter Cullen
UGDYKE@SUNYBCS                          Scott Dyke
UGJEFFH@SUNYBCS                         Jeffrey Horvath
MCL9337@TAMVENUS                        Mark C. Lowe
whitney@think.com                       David Whitney
FEATING@UBVM                            William Ting
V101GWUD@UBVMSD                         WILL KENNEDY
V363HKM4@UBVMSD                         DAVID KELMAN
GOD3%SPHINX@UCHICAGO                    Peter Godwin
SEWALL@UCONNVM                          Murphy A. Sewall
wack@UDEL.EDU                           Wack Andrew
ASTVKBPA@UIAMVS                         Val Bluestein
HEACOCK@UKANVAX                         Heacock Doug
2FZ1SILE@UKANVAX                        Scott A. Strange
JEFF@UKCC                               Jeff Taylor
GREG%ENGR.UKY.EDU@UKMA                  Eric Fitzwater
Apple2-L@um.cc.umich.edu                Apple2-L Redistributor
C447179@UMCVMB                          tom harrison
C465148@UMCVMB                          Kevin Parker
C467167@UMCVMB                          craig copple
ATLEE@UMDC                              Atlee Dick
rossow@umn-cs.cs.UMN.EDU                Michael Rossow
AC64W20@UNEV                            Robert Duran
SJDMK@UNO                               Steven J. Dawson
TAK@UTORGPU                             Tak Ariga
tab556@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu                 Todd Biske
apple2-l-redist%crash.cts.com@uxc.cso.uiuc.EDU Apple2-l Redistributor
CHA001@VAX2.LANCS.AC.UK                 Alan Thomson
GGR@VIRGINIA                            Guillermo G. Romero
dowst@vlsi.jpl.nasa.gov                 Henry Dowst
bwu%s.cc.purdue.edu@vm.cc.purdue.edu    P. Michael Haffley
cv5%s.cc.purdue.edu@vm.cc.purdue.edu    Eric Mulholland
connell@westpoint.arpa                  DON CONNELL
TMURPHY@WPI                             Chris Murphy
TURNEY_S@WUMS                           VON_HADEN R_BLAKE
C27901RP@WUVMD                          Bob Parks
AElHatem.es@Xerox.COM                   ElHatem Abdul
Diego_Camacho.osbunorth@Xerox.COM       Diego Camacho
Miguel_Sanchez.Fremont@Xerox.COM        MIGUEL SANCHEZ
stone.wbst@xerox.com                    Ed Stone
cc@xroads.uucp                          Dan McGuirk
RIZ@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU                      Riaz Adamjee
ZITWILF@YALEVM                          Richard Ewing
bill@zehntel.uucp                       Bill Ellis
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* Total number of users subscribed to the list:  169
* Total number of local node users on the list:    3
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postmaster@ean.ubc.CDN (CDN Gateway) (12/25/87)

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From: Christopher Chung <CC004019%BROWNVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
To: "Murphy A. Sewall" <SEWALL@uconnvm.bitnet>
Cc: info-apple@brl.arpa
In-Reply-To: <Your message of Wed, 23 Dec 87  14:07 EST>
Message-ID: <8712240849.aa29701@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA>
Subject: Re: APPLE2-L

>I saw your note about mail for APPLE2-L going to you first.
>That's certainly likely to prevent the kind of mass mail robot
>wars like we had yesterday.  Does that mean that mail addressed
>to APPLE2-L@BROWNVM.BITNET will simply be routed to you (not
>bounced altogether I hope), or must programs for the list be
>sent to CC004019@BROWNVM.BITNET (or either address)?

Programs still should be sent to apple2-l and not my address, even though
the mail will just be routed to me.  This way if I decide to change the
account that I want the mail routed to, I can do so and not affect anyone
on the list.

>
>On the notion of an INET peer site.  Another possibility would
>be if one or more sites would agree to act as "redistribution
>points" (you already have one UUCP site doing that).  Redistributing
>requires less overhead than a peer site would require because a
>redistributor would NOT RETAIN a file of previous posts.

Great any takers?

>
>It seems to me that UUCP backbone sites would have less traffic
>if they received only one copy of each APPLE2-L message from
>BROWNVM and then sent mail to whatever subscribers were registered
>at that site.  The same sort of thing probably is true on arpa,
>mil, csnet, gov, decnet, and so forth.
>
>Perchance subscribers to APPLE2-L at (or with contacts at) backbone
>sites who see this message on comp.sys.apple will communicate with
>the appropriate systems people and see if they can't set something
>up?
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>ARPA:   sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu       Murphy A. Sewall
>BITNET: SEWALL@UCONNVM                          School of Business Admin.
>UUCP:   ...ihnp4!psuvax1!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL  University of Connecticut

Yes please someone help out with the uucp sites.  The bouncing mail is
getting out of hand here.  I have spent several hours just trying to
clear out the 500 or so files generated the other day when the
robot at psuvax1 "exploded."

Chris

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From: Christopher Chung <CC004019%BROWNVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
To: info-apple@brl.arpa, FEATING@ubvm.bitnet
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Subject: wrong address

Please send these messages to info-apple@brl.arpa and not
apple2-l@brownvm.bitnet!

Chris

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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 87 17:06:40 EST
From:         Lee Yiaw <FEATING@UBVM>
Subject:      Re: holiday
To:           Apple II List <APPLE2-L@BROWNVM>
In-Reply-To:  Message of Mon, 21 Dec 87 23:40:34 EST from <CC004019@BROWNVM>

Hi : Today when I turned on my Apple IIc, I found that it's no long working.
     There were some funny characters appear on the screen when I cold boot
     it. And, it always stop at $0200.. in machine code. I don't know
     what's wrong with it ? Could it be one of the RAM is burn out ? I couldn't
     find the RAM 6664 in the any Electronics mail order listing. Can anyone
     help? Please send mail to me directly. Thanks !

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From: Christopher Chung <CC004019%BROWNVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
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Subject: catalog track

Thanks to all those who sent me replies about my finding the catalog
problem.  I haven't had a chance to try any of them, but I will when I
get home tonight.  Happy Holidays and type to you all next year!

Chris