CS656@OUACCVMB.BITNET (01/06/88)
Big Mac as public domaing? No, I don't think so. I had an interesting experience with Big Mac and more specifically it's author. A friend of mine who does not use anything he does not own was given a "shareware" copy of Big Mac. This person is a developer of new languages working under some large grant s and has no need to pirate anything even if he was so inclined, which he isn't . We looked through the zeroxed docs for a price and an address to the payment to. Not finding either I posted an E-Mail message to the author on Compu-serve You would have thought that I'd asked to rent his daughter. He ccalled me a thi ef and a liar and then got rude. All long distance, of course. I wrote it off as what happens when you use a public service and deleted the mail and trashed the program. The next time that I logged on their was a note from a "Mr" Goodin telling me that the message about piracy was in the public interest and that he had ressurected it for all to see. My original message, asking for inf o on buying the program was silicon history but I was not allowed to delete the note calling me a thief. I now use own ORCA/M and refuse to use Merlin or Compuserve.
lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) (01/10/88)
1. I have had Big Mac from early on and as far as I can tell, it was NEVER shareware. glen Bredon, the real author, sells his software privately during development, and then attempts to get a publisher to handle the software after it is stable. So IF you had a shareware copy, perhaps someone unknown to you DID steal it and put their name, etc. on it. Or perhaps I am way off base. 2. I have used CIS consistantly, daily, for 5 years. I dont recall the conversation that you referred to, but then, I dont read all the sections on all the boards. As for Shawn's intentions - regardless of how you felt about the message, unless you deleted both your post and your reply I can see keeping both on. I wonder why you just didnt send the question in easyplex/private mail, since this would have been more appropriate anyways. 3. Finally, I assume that you plan on quiting usenet the next time someone challenges something that you say? You seem to be quite sensitive. i have been falsely accused of things as well, but I try to make public apoligies or explanations so that the hard feelings are dealt with rather than ceasing use. The primary reason that I use CIS is that it is the only consistent source of software that is useful and usable. Usenet apparently is considered small time for most Apple users (see my election results on the issue of trying to get a comp.binaries.apple for a sample of the apathy amount apple owners here). Bix is too expensive and will probably follow Byte's lead into turning into primarily a IBM system. Delphi was always too slow for me to use and I cannot see getting yet another system (Genie) just to see if they have anything of use to me. -- Larry W. Virden 75046,606 (CIS) 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068 (614) 864-8817 cbosgd!n8emr!lwv (UUCP) cbosgd!n8emr!lwv@PSUVAX1 (BITNET) We haven't inherited the world from our parents, but borrowed it from our children.
kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) (01/14/88)
Enough! OK, I've gotten the word folks! No posting of BIG MAC. No posting of *anything* I didn't write, unless I *know* it *PD*. I'll e-mail shareware. Blech! So, I've been busy. Sorry I didn't let you all know sooner. Since I haven't found T.E.D. (which I have heard from reliable sources, may very well not be PD *either*) I haven't done anything with it yet. Sean Kamath -- UUCP: {decvax allegra ucbcad ucbvax hplabs ihnp4}!tektronix!reed!kamath CSNET: reed!kamath@Tektronix.CSNET || BITNET: reed!kamath@Berkeley.BITNET ARPA: tektronix!reed!kamath@Berkeley <or> reed!kamath@hplabs US Snail: 3934 SE Boise, Portland, OR 97202 (I hate 4 line .sigs!)
kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) (01/14/88)
In article <407@n8emr.UUCP> lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) writes: > >Usenet apparently is considered small >time for most Apple users (see my election results on the issue of trying >to get a comp.binaries.apple for a sample of the apathy amount apple >owners here). I'd be willing to get there are a *lot* of people who'd love to see that group formed, but haven't gotten a clue about how to send e-mail. When you are on a group like comp.sources most of the people are quite familiar with UN*X and mail, etc. A lot of people on comp.sys.apple just read it to get informed, partially, I suspect, because it's free. Granted, I wish more people were less apathetic and made some serious efforts to learn about these things. . (Including *you* Grandma Nerd, as I noticed you were not in the list of people who voted . . . And I know you know how to get to Mr. Virden :-( )). >Larry W. Virden 75046,606 (CIS) >674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068 (614) 864-8817 >cbosgd!n8emr!lwv (UUCP) cbosgd!n8emr!lwv@PSUVAX1 (BITNET) Sean Kamath. -- UUCP: {decvax allegra ucbcad ucbvax hplabs ihnp4}!tektronix!reed!kamath CSNET: reed!kamath@Tektronix.CSNET || BITNET: reed!kamath@Berkeley.BITNET ARPA: tektronix!reed!kamath@Berkeley <or> reed!kamath@hplabs US Snail: 3934 SE Boise, Portland, OR 97202 (I hate 4 line .sigs!)