dennis@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Dennis Dale) (01/21/88)
I own a ][+ system with an extended memory board (128K Saturn) in it. I find that the newer programs requiring more than the on-board 64K of memory do not recognize this type of memory board. They seem to require the memory access provided by the 'weird' slot 3 on a ][e. Does anyone know how to make the necessary hardware 'hacks' to my board to make it compatable? I wouldn't mind making major modifications to either my Saturn board or my mother board to make it work. I could be wrong, but it seems like the Applied Engineering people made it work with their Ramfactor board, it must be somehow do-able. I don't need double-hires graphics or an 80 column board right now, just the compatable memory. Dennis Dale AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, IL ihnp4!ihlpf!dennis -- Dennis Dale AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville, IL (ihnp4!ihobp!dennis)
halp@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Bruce P. Halpern) (01/22/88)
I believe that a Titan/Saturn card's memory is fundamentally different from the Applied Engineering RamFactor card that can work in any slot. A.E.'s RamFactor card is, I believe similar to the Apple memory expansion cards. If you want to run AppleWorks in your ][+, your Saturn 128K card can be put to use with Plus Works II (Norwich Data Services, Ltd., P.O. Box 356, East Norwich NY 11732-0356. tel: 516-922-9584 and 210-679-0594). -- | Bruce P. Halpern Psychology & Neurobiology & Behavior Cornell Ithaca | | ARPA: halp@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu | | BITNET: HALP@CRNLTHRY D57J@CORNELLA D57J@CRNLVAX5 | | PHONE: 607-255-6433 Uris Hall, Cornell U., Ithaca, NY 14853-7601 |
kamath@reed.UUCP (01/24/88)
In article <3456@ihlpf.ATT.COM> dennis@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Dennis Dale) writes: >I own a ][+ system with an extended memory board (128K Saturn) in it. >I find that the newer programs requiring more than the on-board 64K >of memory do not recognize this type of memory board. They seem to >require the memory access provided by the 'weird' slot 3 on a ][e. >Does anyone know how to make the necessary hardware 'hacks' to my board >to make it compatable? I wouldn't mind making major modifications >to either my Saturn board or my mother board to make it work. It would take *MAJOR* mods to do it. Like, redo the motherboard. >I could be wrong, but it seems like the Applied Engineering people made it >work with their Ramfactor board, it must be somehow do-able. I don't >need double-hires graphics or an 80 column board right now, just the >compatable memory. What the Ramfactor (and Apple's board) do is they serial bytes to the extended memory, much like a serial card. The Saturn is a bank switched memory card, much like the aux card on the //e. Thus, even though they do the same thing as the //e-only cards, they do it quite differently. Since the RamFactor has it's own ROM to do the serialing, programs that use that method don't recognize it either. I know it sounds like you in a bind, and you are. I hope you can work something out. Maybe sell the Saturn and get a RamFactor. >Dennis Dale >(ihnp4!ihobp!dennis) Sean Kamath -- UUCP: {decvax allegra ucbcad ucbvax hplabs ihnp4}!tektronix!reed!kamath CSNET: reed!kamath@Tektronix.CSNET || BITNET: reed!kamath@Berkeley.BITNET ARPA: tektronix!reed!kamath@Berkeley <or> reed!kamath@hplabs US Snail: 3934 SE Boise, Portland, OR 97202 (I hate 4 line .sigs!)