msicv01@ms3.UUCP (Jay G. Heiser) (03/11/88)
The Never Ending Debate on VT-100:
My dream comm package will include scripts, session review buffer (config-
urable size), GOOD VT-100 emulation, and kermit. ProDOS & support for a
//e with 512k RAM would be nice, too.
Dave, I'm interested in z-term or whatever, but can't get to APPLE2 from
here. FYI, VT-100 is important for two good reasons. First, it seems to
be the most common (dare I say standard) terminal type around, and
we need terminals for full-screen editing, etc. Second, its the only terminal
type that my office automation system will support, so all other arguments
are moot.
Kermit: Our broadband LAN chokes on XMODEM, but kermit works fine. Again,
I don't have any other choice.
I like Crosstalk XVI and especially like CrossTalk Mark IV on the IBM.
ProComm is neat, but our OA system makes it blow up.
I've tried DCOM. It works great with vi, elm, vnews, etc, but it doesn't
work with the OA system. I need an emulator that makes a reasonable facsim-
ile of the horizontal line (an ESC sequence followed by 'q's) and also the
VT-100 dot-in-the-middle-of-the-line character (an ESC sequence followed
by '~'s). All IBM PC comm packages make this a '.', but DCOM makes it a '0'.
Only about 1/2 the IBM packages make allowances for the horizontal line.
I phoned up Checkmate Technology last week to ask if ProTerm supported my
special needs. It does have kermit. He was going to phone me back about
the two special characters that I needed and I haven't heard from him.
Maybe the //e just doesn't have the capability to be a decent terminal
emulator at 1200 baud. The Macs & Atari STs have good & cheap VT-100
packages that even show underlining & bold face. The IBM PC can show
screen enhancements through the use of color. (Why doesn't the horribly
overpriced GS have some good shareware terminal program like all the
other computers?).
Before I spend $80 on ProTERM (the last //e software I'm ever going to buy)
does anybody know for certain that it won't do what I want to do?
Thank you,
Maybe the //e can't hack it no matter what
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Jay Heiser UUCP: ..!umd5!vrdxhq!ms3!msicv01
ARPA: msicv01@hios-pent.arparalphw@IUS3.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU (Ralph Hyre) (03/12/88)
In article <757@ms3.UUCP> msicv01@ms3.UUCP (Jay G. Heiser) writes: >The Never Ending Debate on VT-100: >My dream comm package will include scripts, session review buffer (config- >urable size), GOOD VT-100 emulation, and kermit. ProDOS & support for a >//e with 512k RAM would be nice, too. ... >Maybe the //e just doesn't have the capability to be a decent terminal >emulator at 1200 baud. The Macs & Atari STs have good & cheap VT-100 >packages that even show underlining & bold face. The IBM PC can show >screen enhancements through the use of color. (Why doesn't the horribly >overpriced GS have some good shareware terminal program like all the >other computers?). I believe I have the capability to build an ANSI compatible (VT100+color!). [a friend showed me his new PC (in '83) with ANSI.Sys driver and some nifty VMS monitoring utilities] term emulator that would work at 1200 bps. The //e can do some 80-column color in double-hires mode, I don't have a color monitor though. You'd need some fast interrupt-driven routines [which would bypass the standard Serial Card I/O routines] to grab characters coming in from the serial port, and stuff them somewhere for the command-interpreter & display routines to pick up.] Of course, just because I have the capability doesn't mean I have time to actually build such a thing. Sorry, and good luck. -- - Ralph W. Hyre, Jr. Internet: ralphw@ius2.cs.cmu.edu Phone:(412)268-{2847,3275} CMU-{BUGS,DARK} Amateur Packet Radio: N3FGW@W2XO, or c/o W3VC, CMU Radio Club, Pittsburgh, PA