[net.movies] Star Trek III

Gegenheimer.ES@XEROX.ARPA (04/19/84)

I am a recent hire here at Xerox, and when I saw there was a Star Trek
dl I gleefully added myself to it, expecting to receive at least some
messages discussing this and that about the Star Trek show, books and
movies.  Alas, I have not received a THING!  Aren't you people going to
speculate on if and how Spock will be back in Star Trek III?  Granted,
he will most likely be back (although all that was ever admitted was
that Leonard Nimoy was contracted to DIRECT the movie), but how will it
happen?  These are burning questions, here!

1. Will Spock come back in the flesh, or will he pull some sort of
Obi-wan Kenobi and come back in some ethereal form?

2. Can they get away with a whole movie spent just looking for Spock,
with him just showing up at the end, or will they (more probably) throw
some extra intergalactic nastiness in just to keep us occupied?

3. Will the crew of the ENTERPRISE be wearing ANOTHER different set of
uniforms to chanry scene?

--Well?  "Speculation, Spock?"

--Bill--

Ozarka.ES@XEROX.ARPA (04/23/84)

I'll bet talents to navy beans that the Genesis device will have brought
Spock back to life.

We (here in So. Cal.) don't have get a weekly dose of Star Trek -- this
might explain the lack of messages.

LLAP,
Ron

barmar@mit-eddie.UUCP (05/11/84)

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1. Will Spock come back in the flesh, or will he pull some sort of
Obi-wan Kenobi and come back in some ethereal form?

2. Can they get away with a whole movie spent just looking for Spock,
with him just showing up at the end, or will they (more probably) throw
some extra intergalactic nastiness in just to keep us occupied?

3. Will the crew of the ENTERPRISE be wearing ANOTHER different set of
uniforms to chanry scene?

--Well?  "Speculation, Spock?"

--Bill--
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1.  The quote i have heard from Nimoy goes approximately "Well, Spock
will be back, but I won't say in what form.  We couldn't have a movie
titled 'The Search for Spock' and end it with  Kirk saying, 'Well, I
guess we didn't find him.'"

2.  There is supposed to be plenty of action in this, involving fights
with Klingons and stuff.

3. This movie starts shortly (the same day) after ST II ended, so I
don't think there would have been time for Starfleet to issue new
uniforms.
-- 
			Barry Margolin
			ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics
			UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar

ron@brl-vgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (05/12/84)

I saw some advanced stills.  The Crew of the enterprise will be wearing
yet another set of uniforms.

-Ron

rjnoe@ihlts.UUCP (Roger Noe) (05/14/84)

For those of you reading net.movies, you may wish to restrict your postings
of Star Trek-related articles to net.startrek.  We can expect another flood
of news around the release date of ST3 so let's not clutter up another
newsgroup with our specialized traffic.  Thanks.

>	I saw some advanced stills.  The Crew of the enterprise will be wearing
>	yet another set of uniforms.
>	-Ron

That's not correct.  The uniforms are unchanged from ST2, but the principal
characters all spend a bit of time off-duty and off-ship, so you probably
saw "civvies".
	Roger Noe			ihnp4!ihlts!rjnoe

rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (06/11/84)

First, I loved this movie.  It *felt* like an episode.  It *felt* like I was
watching a new episode of the ST series and not a movie based on that series,
and for me, that was good.

Now on with the pixie hats, and the asking of silly questions and the making of
silly comments:

1. I was kind of disappointed that T'Pao didn't call Spock "Tspoke" the way she
	did in "Amok Time".  The Vulcan Vestal Virgins were definitely what I
	would call visually disjunctive.

2. Will the Enterprise be regenerated by the Genesis effect?  Since protomatter
	was used in Genesis, isn't the following scenario possible?  David and
	Kruge are regenerated, but due to a time warp caused by the protomatter
	they go back in time to a Los Angeles high school and the streets of
	New York City.  David becomes a nerdy/neo-punk student, and Kruge,
	due to brain damage from the regeneration, becomes a derelict who
	later becomes a cab driver (on Square Pegs and Taxi, respectively).
	Don't you remember Reverend Jim saying "I used to command a spaceship"
	from time to time...

3. Was it EXACTLY the same destruct sequence used in "Let That Be Your Last
	Battlefield"?????

4. WHAT ABOUT THE ORGANIAN SPACE TREATY???  Didn't that "treaty", imposed by the
	Organians, mean that ANY violence between the Klingons and the
	Federation would cause the same interference by the Organians as in the
	original episode, or am I misinterpreting the essence of the treaty?

5. Was the opening inset scene (shown in black and white) with Spock dying in
	the chamber talking to Kirk *re-shot*?  His \\// hand didn't slide down
	the glass as I remember it?

6. To add a few of my favorite quotes to Roger's:

	"That's what happens when you miss staff meetings."

	"Because the needs of the one outweighed the needs of the many."

   That last one really got to me.  In a way, as long as we're busy drawing
	analogies to the SW trilogy, "the needs of ..."  quotes from both
	movies are slightly analogous to the trading of "I love you"--"I know"s
	in TESB/ROTJ.

7.  In "Menagerie", when Spock showed the footage of the Enterprise under Pike,
	the "film" was stopped with someone exclaiming "No starship keeps
	(kept?) such records!" Do they do so "now" (in ST3 time)? (Apparently)
	I'm referring to Kirk's playback of the scene from ST2 in engineering.
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						Rich Rosen    pyuxn!rlr

gam@proper.UUCP (Gordon Moffett) (06/13/84)

#
I took it as:
	"The needs of the One outweigh the needs of the many."

... but I'm a pretty mystical guy.

I agree with Rich, this was a fine TV episode that happens to be a
feature length film.  That's all I ever expect, and I'm never
disappointed.  (Well, the first one WAS boring).

And yes, there were lots of inconsistencies and illogical things
and historical inaccuracies.

Who cares?

barmar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Barry Margolin) (06/13/84)

In article <736@pyuxn.UUCP> rlr@pyuxn.UUCP writes:
>1. I was kind of disappointed that T'Pao didn't call Spock "Tspoke" the way she
>	did in "Amok Time".
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That's because it wasn't T'Pau.  The name of the priestess
in STIII was T'Lon.
-- 
			Barry Margolin
			ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics
			UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar

dwhitney@uok.UUCP (06/18/84)

#R:mit-eddi:-210900:uok:5100022:000:205
uok!dwhitney    Jun 18 13:54:00 1984


One comment, and I'll get out.  NO THE PRIESTESS WAS **** N *O T **** T'LON or
T'POP or T'PAU   it was    ****** T ' L A R ******

Thank you for your tolerance.
David Whitney
!ctvax!uokvax!uok!dwhitney