laba-4an@web3d.berkeley.edu (Andy McFadden) (04/15/88)
I recently made an examination of ProTERM v2.0 terminal emulations, and came up with the following results: Terminal Type UNIX termcap scroll? okay 80-cols? insert line? ------------- ------------ ------- ------------- ------------ televideo tvi yes yes yes hazeltine 1500 h1500 yes yes yes dec vt52 vt52 -- didn't work on my system dec vt100 vt100 yes no yes lsi adm3a adm3a no yes no Soroc 120 soroc no yes no heathkit h19 h19 no yes yes IBM 3101-10 ibm3101 -- didn't work on my system datamedia 1500 dm1500?? -- terminal descriptor unknown Explanation: Terminal Type = type according to ProTERM UNIX termcap = what to type (i.e., set term = tvi) scroll? = can it scroll downward as well as upwards? okay 80-cols? = does vi skip when lines exceed 80 columns? insert line? = will vi spread the lines apart while inserting (rather than just blank the current one out) Notes: hazeltine 1500 terminal seemed rather slow during tabbing heathkit terminal added garbage every now and then IBM terminal inserted garbage every so often The terminal of choice seems to be the tvi. If they would fix the 80-col vt100 bug, perhaps that would be better. This was tested on a SUN workstation, with sun 4.2 unix. -- laba-4an@widow.berkeley.edu (Andy McFadden) "Highly clever disclaimer and signature."
scott@geowhiz.UUCP (Scott Kempf) (04/16/88)
I have a suggestion for all you writters of terminal emulators.
Why not include a UNIX style termcap for each of you emulations?
I don't know how many times I've had to go and cut apart termcaps
to make the work with emulation that was *almost* correct.
If anyone wants more info on making a termcap,
I could mail some to you, along with some sample termcaps.
Including termcaps would be a REALLY big help to us UNIX people.
Scott
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BITNET: scott%geowhiz.uucp%spool.wisc.edu@wiscvm.bitnetbrsmith@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Brian R. Smith) (04/25/88)
I cheated - I used TIC, set it to do Apple 80 column firmware emulation (straight pass-thru, for all practical purposes), and made a UNIX termcap entry to cope with it. Everything works perfectly. :-) If anyone wants it, I can post it; Apple II firmware is REAL simple, so it's only 3 or 4 lines. Brian brsmith@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu [internet] brsmith@umn-cs.UUCP [UUCP? NAAAHHH!] brsmith%umn-cs@UMNACVX.BITNET
cuthbert@tramp.Colorado.EDU (CUTHBERTSON ROBERT) (04/26/88)
In article <4949@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu> brsmith@umn-cs.UUCP (Brian R. Smith) writes: > >I cheated - I used TIC, set it to do Apple 80 column firmware emulation >(straight pass-thru, for all practical purposes), and made a UNIX termcap >entry to cope with it. > >Everything works perfectly. :-) > >If anyone wants it, I can post it; Apple II firmware is REAL simple, so it's >only 3 or 4 lines. > >Brian >brsmith@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu [internet] >brsmith@umn-cs.UUCP [UUCP? NAAAHHH!] >brsmith%umn-cs@UMNACVX.BITNET YES! Please do post that! I have been trying to work out a suitable terminal emulation for some time now, and you seem to have exacly what I need to work out the last problem. (namely, the /termcap entry) Muchious Thankious. "Maybe when you call me, Baby you can call me Mal!" +----- -----+ ! Yes, actually I *did* say hi. Just ask Frank. ! ! cuthbert@tramp.Colorado.EDU.Bitnet ! !(get the cuthbert@tramp.Colorado.EDU.UUCP ! ! idea yet?) cuthbert@tramp.Colorado.EDU.ARPA <- Does this work? E-mail me +----- -----+
brsmith@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Brian R. Smith) (04/27/88)
Well, I've gotten requests, so here it is... Notes: 'it#8' tells UNIX that you have tabs every 8 columns. This is a function of TIC, not the firmware. The clear key on a IIgs will do something like clear-screen, depending on what you're in. To use: save somewhere, minus this stuff, and do; % setenv TERMCAP <wherever you saved it> % setenv TERM IIgs <or IIe, or IIc, or ...> Other fun stuff: in BASIC, on a IIgs, Control-Shift-6 (^^) followed by any character will change the cursor to that character. (not strictly applicable to a termcap, but a strange thing about this firmware. You can't do cursor positioning from BASIC unless you use the Pascal I/O hooks, on a IIgs at least, as ^^ also used for cursor positioning.) I've tested it thouroughly with everying I use. If you're having problems using it, check for your own mistakes. Brian brsmith@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu brsmith@umn-cs.UUCP brsmith%umn-cs@UMNACVX.BITNET ------- Cut here -------- IIgs|IIe|IIc|//gs|//e|//c|Apple 80 column firmware interface:\ :am:bl=^G:bs:bw:cd=^K:ce=^]:cl=^L:cm=^^%r%+\040%+\040:co#80:cr=^M:\ :do=^J:eo:ho=^Y:kb=^H:kC=^X:kD=\177:kd=^J:kl=^H:kr=^U:ku=^K:\ :le=^H:li#24:nd=^\:se=^N:so=^O:sr=^V:sf=^W:up=^_:ms:\ :it#8:ta=^I: