[comp.sys.apple] TRASH on APPLE2L

wen@pro-mercury.cts.COM (System Administrator) (05/14/88)

Am I the only one that receives so much garbage being disguised as programs on
APPLE2L?  I just received a batch of HI-RES programs for the IIGS including
a NUDE of Marilyn Monroe!  These are not programs - they are incrediably large
(54K) bitmaps of limited (or zero) use to many users.  The PING
sounds fall in close to the same catagory but may be of use to someone and
they are programs under a pretty loose interpretation.

Should hi-res photos be distributed or should a short note be posted and these 
hi-res pictures be distributed by e-mail?

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dowst@vlsi.jpl.nasa.GOV ("Henry P. Dowst") (05/16/88)

Unfortunately, there are a number of twits out there who enjoy sending
Fire House type pictures.  GEnie is also full of this drek.  I think 
that one of the disadvantages of the //GS is that it makes it easier
to create this crap.  Maybe it's the MAC influence.  An ignorant user
rcise for small minds, an affront to m,any professional women net members,an exe
and generally tasteless.

Henr Dowst

P.S.  I am nmot a prude..  It's just that these things are banded about
ty of the uploader.They aren't.  They are stupid and show the stupidiy

SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (05/16/88)

>Unfortunately, there are a number of twits out there who enjoy sending
>Fire House type pictures.  GEnie is also full of this drek.

On the one hand, I agree with the "Fire House pictures" description as an
assessment of the artistic merit of most of the pictures distributed on
the net.  On the other hand, a certain amount of wasteful experimentation
is inherent in developing any new artistic medium (which is what computer
graphics is rapidly becoming).  I recall when a pretty dim view was taken
of Andy Warhol's stuff (be it soup cans or Marilyn Monroe), and I expect
Rubins had detractors in his day.

I haven't even looked at the pictures you're referring to - quite possibly
they are "tasteless."  However, if the Marilyn Monroe picture is part of
the calendar series, there are quite a few art critics that would class
you as a cretin for your assessment.

>P.S.  I am nmot a prude..  It's just that these things are banded about
>ty of the uploader.They aren't.  They are stupid and show the stupidiy

Your postscript calls to mind the line from Macbeth: "Methinks the lady
doth protest too much."  If not prudish, your reasoning certainly seems
anti-intellectual.

Perhaps we'd all do well to remember the amorphism about living in glass
houses and avoid ad hominum attacks.  Some of the pictures may be
sophmoric, but it's pretty easy to delete them.  So far, no one's sent
you a picture alleged to be a "still life" that turns out to a centerfold.

I'd think the better question is does this "art" (whether it's Mr Spock
or Miss Universe) merit the CPU cycles?  After all, the price of a IIgs
probably could insure a lifetime subscription to Playboy.  It doesn't
take more than a couple of these pictures to show what your personal computer
can do; what's the point of having 20 Mbytes worth of them?

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