keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) (07/11/88)
In article <8807100320.aa02243@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA> SELLSWORTH@HMCVAX.BITNET ("Scott, part time fuzzy") writes: >>>2) As for new Tech examples from Apple.. Please put out something showing how >>>to make custonm dials in windows (i.e. make a scroll bar in the shape of a >>>Joel Sumner >>Well....I can meat you half weigh. I do have a custom control sample, but it >>does not do *exactly* what you requested. I does show very clearly how to do >>what you want though. It is a sizer/positioner (I still haven't figured out >>Keith Rollin amdahl\ > > > Get this critter out to where the masses can see it! We have spent several >weeks trying to (unsuccessfully) do tasks like this. Why are there no examples >out there? > That's the intention, Scott. We're working on it as fast as we can. These samples should be ready in a couple of months. There are only two of us right now working on about 2 dozen program simultaneously. This is in addition to giving support to developers by answering their questions. Tech support for the Apple line should be explained and appologized for. Up until a few months ago, Apple virtually didn't have an Apple II tech support department. However, that was not a marketing decision!!! It was sheer bad luck. 3 peole left the group around the same time, reducing the number of people left to answer all the questions we get to 3. In March of this year, 4 new people were hired (including yours truly). Since then, we have been able to keep up with our e-mail questions, and have started writing new technotes, revising all of the old ones, and creating "Living technotes", the demos that have been alluded to. So as that guy said in 2010, "Something wonderful is going to happen"!!! Hang in there. > Reminders of things that NEED doing: > > Example alert box. > Large, useful, data-packed example involving print manager > Ditto for list manager. > Resources, and well designed dynamic segemnts. Admittedly, this is an > example demonstrating a feature that does not exist yet, but a man can hope. 3 of these 4 will be shown on the first Volume of the Living Technotes. All of our about boxes are done with Alert Boxes. I have written a Lister program that was originally written to teach me how to program in C, but was expanded to be a useful utility and demo. It merely takes a TXT or SRC file and sends it to a printer. PostScript is supported. Jim (the other guy working on this) and I have written a program that uses the List Manager and LineEdit. A list is maintained by simple buttons, and editted with a LineEdit item. Cut, Copy, Paste, and Clear are supported (Undo is NOT). I hope that is enough to whet your appetite. Now I just hope that we ship this thing, now that I've promised it to everyone. BTW, I don't know how the distribution is going to be handled on this. The original idea was simply to mail it to developers. However, I want it sent to APDA as well. I don't know if electronic distribution is going to be done, as there is a LOT of source. Up and downloading would reduce this net to tears! (the programs were actually shorter, but some people in SW Engineering insisted that we comment the suckers...imagine! :-) Keith Rollin amdahl\ Developer Technical Support pyramid!sun !apple!keith Apple Computer decwrl/ "You can do what you want to me, but leave my computer alone!"
JDA@NIHCU.BITNET (Doug Ashbrook) (07/11/88)
> BTW, I don't know how the > distribution is going to be handled on this. The original idea was simply to > mail it to developers. However, I want it sent to APDA as well. I don't know > if electronic distribution is going to be done, as there is a LOT of source. > Up and downloading would reduce this net to tears! (the programs were actually > shorter, but some people in SW Engineering insisted that we comment the > suckers...imagine! :-) Please realize that there are a lot of us who are not registered developers, but who could still benefit from the Demos. I do belong to APDA and I feel that you *MUST* distribute it through them as a minimum. It would, however, be far better to post the files to APPLE2-L. I think that this would be important and useful enough information to enough people to warrant the traffic. I would also suggest that you distribute the assembled (or compiled) binary files in addition to the source. Not all of us have every assembler/compiler (I use TML Pascal with the Toolbox routines). I sometimes find it very helpful to be able to run the program while I am looking at the source. I think that you are working on a very important project, and I only hope that you distribute the information to as many interested parties as possible. Remember, even though I am not a registered developer, the more knowledgeable I am about the Apple, the more hardware and software I am going to buy and the more I will tell my friends about it. Who knows, some day I might become registered! :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Douglas Ashbrook (301) 496-5181 BITNET: JDA@NIHCU ARPA: jda%nihcu.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu National Institutes of Health, Computer Center, Bethesda, MD 20892
SELLSWORTH@HMCVAX.BITNET ("Scott, part time fuzzy") (07/12/88)
I hate posting this netwide, but we just lost our computer on uucp, so bitnet
it is.
Keith, perhaps you should consider making these available to those outside
the developer community who would like them. Distribution to dealers might
work out well. I am not sure of the logistics, but it seems like a dealer
would be able to cover a great number of the folks that APDA and the certified
developers would not.
Scott
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