AWCTTYPA@UIAMVS.BITNET ("David A. Lyons") (08/10/88)
>Date: Tue, 9 Aug 88 03:29:00 EDT >From: Andy <A1T@ECL.PSU.EDU> >Subject: more perfect telecom program >About quitting: No, I don't want to use a shell like ECP or davex. >That's just as inconvenient as the 'enter prefix' because I only have >one drive here, the built-in, and i'd have to switch disks. I'm not a >fan of switching disks (the main reason I want to use the /ram >volume). I don't have a block count on ECP for you, but a minimal Davex environment will cost you under 50 blocks. Plenty of room left on your 5.25 drive. Or you can run Davex from /RAM if you want. >[...] why does prodos have to try and be so *&%#$ user-friendly! (i >take it too many of you were brought up on prodos and therefore don't >know how nice it is to be able to quit a program, jump into the >monitor and change something (with the mini-assembler in ROM) and >then start the program back up, without having to load a command >shell, or any external programs, or anything. I typically wouldn't want to trust any changes I made in the monitor while a program was running, not if the data I was working with was important. From Davex or ECP, "mon" gets you in the monitor. I *do* visit the monitor & other utilities while programs are running (without even quitting them), but I do it on a IIgs where several CDAs are available to do the job. (Just hit Apple-Ctrl-ESC at almost any time and have "Visit Monitor" or Nifty List available; resume the application right where it left off.) Generally I'm just browsing rather than making patches on the fly! [Note that I wrote Davex and Nifty List--my comments about them may not be completely unbiased.] >Andy --David A. Lyons a.k.a. DAL Systems PO Box 287 | North Liberty, IA 52317 BITNET: AWCTTYPA@UIAMVS CompuServe: 72177,3233 GEnie mail: D.LYONS2