[net.movies] Movie Flames - How the net can benefit from this "debate"

rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (07/09/84)

I can only feel sad when I read David Whitney's rebuttal article in which
he claims that any movie that offers more than just "pure entertainment"
is designed to "cram Hollywood's version of reality down people's throats".
I can make guesses that David thinks ANY interesting artistic effort with
some substance that goes beyond just entertainment is 'snob-class pretentious
garbage' (unfortunately, this is a wide-spread attitude common in America), or
that perhaps he is not of the "know-nothing" breed I describe above, and
perhaps is quite well-read, but that he thinks of movies as solely being
devoted to entertainment and not the realm of serious work.  ("It's a movie,
not a piece of literature" sounds like "It's pop, not *real* music!" type
of argument to me).  But these would only be guesses in any case.

I think, however, that as an outgrowth of Mr. Diehm's original posting and
Mr. Whitney's replies, we have come across a goldmine the likes of which we
may never encounter again.  Mr. Diehm has a high level of despisal for fluff
movies (as he might call them), and Mr. Whitney has an equal level of disdain
for pretentious (as he would call them) films.  What better pair could you come
up with to do the net's version of Sneak Previews????

Think about it.  Two diametrically opposed individuals both reviewing films.
Diehm gives a film four stars, Whitney gives it none.  We all know immediately
what to expect from the film:  an inquisitive film about the nature of humanity
thats shoves its disgusting opinions at you and puts you to sleep.  Diehm gives
a film no stars, Whitney gives it four.  Aha!  A fun film for everyone,
enjoyable entertainment, with enough real quality to fill a microthimble.
They both give a film four stars!!  What does this mean?  Who knows?

This is only semi-frivolous.
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chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) (07/12/84)

Another possible benefit. I've found that I'm much happier finding a movie
critic that I disagree with constantly than one I agree with most of the
time. Any time that critic sneers at a movie I KNOW I'm gonna love it. This
is another opportunity for this as well.

chuq

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I don't mind you coming here and wasting all my time. Because when you're
standing oh so near, I kinda lose my mind...

rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (07/13/84)

> Another possible benefit. I've found that I'm much happier finding a movie
> critic that I disagree with constantly than one I agree with most of the
> time. Any time that critic sneers at a movie I KNOW I'm gonna love it. This
> is another opportunity for this as well.
> chuq

This is what my old signature line meant:

"I take your opinions and multiply them by -1."

The quip was often used by friends of mine to deride movie/music/critics.
I had originally used it just to throw certain people completely off balance.
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a more wretched hive of scum and villainy: not found
					Rich Rosen    pyuxn!rlr