"@UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU (09/27/88)
I'm using a CMS 60 meg drive with CMS SCSI II controller card. Other than a
problem at first ( I forgot to install the SCSI driver). I been using it for a
few days now. I've deleted files, moved files and generally messed around with
it and have had no problems at all. It seems that the Apple SCSI driver works
ok with the CMS card. I'm sure that this is just an oversight on Apples part
and in the next release of GS/OS that Apple will make sure that it won't work
correctly. Pardon my sarcasm, but I'm another Apple masochist. I really like
the computer, but I really have lots of trouble when a company deliberately
"cripples" a product.
I even become more disenchanted with the recent price increase. I mean lets be
realistic. I know that memory prices have increased. But the price increase does
not jibe with the current OEM prices. When you complain, you get standard
Apple line "Apple doesn't comment on the pricing of individual products". How
much do those Sony drives in OEM quantities? Probably under $100. Yet Apple
charges $359. Gee, I'd like a 350% profit margin. But I digress.
If Apple is looking for comments from the net, mine would be "Wake up and
smell the roses." For the price of a GS system you could buy a really nice
amiga 2000 system and have cash left in the bank (and I don't even like Amiga)
If you charge too much for a product, people don't buy it. If thats your plan
then its gonna work real fast. And you will have a screaming mob of // users
who will never forget their treatment.
As for ways to change the policies, my suggestion is for everyone who wants a
//GS+ and a further contiuation of the // line (65832, etc.) to run out and
buy a share of Apple stock. This will give you a chance to shape the direction
of Apple. And if Mr. Sculley can't or won't listen to a anything but silent
majority, then there are always CEOs' who will, and if you will excuse the
cliche', "CEO's are a dime a dozen".
Ahh, well, its time for me to get off my soapbox. I hope that its not too late
for the // line (and believe me 1990 is too late for a GS+).
Kevin Black
A concerned Apple // enthusiast.
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"Progress doesn't enlighten people - It just makes them stupid in new ways"shankar@src.honeywell.COM (Subash Shankar) (10/01/88)
In article <8809271156.AA07493@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-sol!pro-newfrontier!kblack@nosc.mil writes: > >If Apple is looking for comments from the net, mine would be "Wake up and >smell the roses." For the price of a GS system you could buy a really nice >amiga 2000 system and have cash left in the bank (and I don't even like Amiga) >If you charge too much for a product, people don't buy it. Apple's reasoning here is (presumably) that people won't give up their investment and loyalty to the Apple // line. In my opinion, this reasoning is flawed. Personally, there is little chance that I might go to the Amiga, since the future of the Amiga line is not stable enought to invest in Amiga software, even though I think that everybody will agree that the Amiga offers the best hardware per dollar of any major computer. I have too many scruples to degenerate to an Intel or IBM system :-). But, the delay in the GS+ in all probability means that Apple has lost a sale of the GS+ to the AE speedup board. Being an egomaniac, I suspect that many others feel the same way. >As for ways to change the policies, my suggestion is for everyone who wants a >//GS+ and a further contiuation of the // line (65832, etc.) to run out and >buy a share of Apple stock. Being a little practical/cynical, I doubt Apple would listen to a .001% shareholder. The board probably owns almost all the stocks.
lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) (10/02/88)
While I agree that there are many people we hear on the net who are not staying with Apple simply from loyalty, when you talk to a GOOD dealer you will be surprised (pleasantly so in some cases) to hear how good the IIgs is selling. Now with all the 'problems' that machine has - I mean, listen to the complaints here on the net! - you surely wouldnt think that the machine was selling 20,000 machines a month would you? -- Larry W. Virden 75046,606 (CIS) 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068 (614) 864-8817 osu-cis!n8emr!lwv (UUCP) osu-cis!n8emr!lwv@TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (INTERNET) We haven't inherited the world from our parents, but borrowed it from our children.