tmetro@pro-angmar.UUCP (Tom Metro) (03/28/88)
Does anyone know what the "USII.BDOS" file is used for on the Ascii Express (ProDOS) disk? According to the manual it is a database for the install program. I looked through the 55 block long file and it contained mostly zeros. There was a page or two of data that was repeated several times throught the file. It contained ascii strings like "baud" and "Waiting for carrier...". I removed the file from my AE disk (to make room for other things) and it seems to have no effect. All my parameters are still the same in AE and in Install. I do recall loosing my parameter settings once when I ran Copy ][+'s "fix file lengths" on my DOS 3.3 version. It scrunched the USII.BDOS file way down.
mdavis@pro-sol.cts.COM (Morgan Davis) (03/29/88)
Tom Metro (tmetro@pro-angmar) writes: > Does anyone know what the "USII.BDOS" file is used for on the Ascii Express > (ProDOS) disk? > .. > I do recall losing my parameter settings once when I ran Copy ][+'s > "fix the file lengths" on my DOS 3.3 version. It scrunched the USII.BDOS > file way down. The BDOS file for AE Pro contains a database of BIOS drivers (BIOS = Basic Input/Output System). These are actually a collection of drivers for different modem and hardware configurations, and they're used only when running the INSTALL portion of AE Pro. INSTALL copies the correct BIOS entries from this file into AE Pro proper so that they will be resident when you run the program. This is why you can move the BDOS file elsewhere as long as you won't be using the INSTALL portion. I seriously discourage modifying this file (in either the DOS 3.3 or ProDOS versions). Doing so would mean that INSTALL could fail to configure your AE Pro correctly for some configurations. --Morgan Davis United Software Industries, Inc. UUCP: crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis@nosc.mil INET: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com
mdavis@pro-sol.cts.COM (Morgan Davis) (10/04/88)
Joe Craparotta writes: > Come on Brad... Comparing a ][ (any one of them) to a Mac or Amiga is a > little ridiculous.. As for AE Pro.. It CANT'T compare with Proterm.. I > don't know of anyone who EVER got its supposed emulation to work. You probably don't know anyone who actually *owns* AE Pro; someone with a manual. Nevertheless, AE Pro has not been awarded A+ Magazine's Reader's Choice award three years in a row for "supposed emulation that doesn't work." It works. If any customer of United Software has trouble or questions with a product, they can simply call the toll-free customer support number for help. Anyone who needs assistance and doesn't call for support is not using their purchase wisely. > Although Proterm does have some bugs, its still a hell of a lot better. > Ever wonder why they came out with Mousetalk??? MouseTalk is NOT a replacement for AE Pro. In fact, MouseTalk was developed long before ProTerm had even been started. Where AE Pro addressed more of a technical audience and supports a myriad of hardware configurations for all Apple II series computers, MouseTalk targets a more specific audience. MouseTalk takes advantage of the mouse and MouseText abilities of the IIGS, IIc, and IIe to provide a more friendly, easy to use interface to a terminal program, patterned after the Macintosh. > And that still doesn't do emulations.... MouseTalk and AE Pro have always been able to emulate a variety of terminals. In particular, MouseTalk can mimic the characteristics of the ADDS Viewpoint, ADM 3A, DEC VT-52, DEC VT-100/102, Hazeltine 1510, Heath 19, Zenith Z19, IBM 3101, Soroc IQ-120, Standard Apple //, Standard TTY, and Televideo 910/912. > BTW your Mac or Amiga can't beat my VAXSTATION 2000 for anything!!!! > > Joe An interesting, yet unwanted bit of commentary. Too bad you can't run ProTerm on your VAX, eh? I look forward to bantering with you in the future when you have your facts straight. Thank you. --Morgan Davis United Software Industries, Inc. UUCP: crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis ProLine: mdavis@pro-sol ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis@nosc.mil MCI Mail: 137-6036 INET: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com APE, BIX: mdavis
craparotta@kyoa.DEC.COM (Physical T5--Virtual T7) (10/05/88)
Rich, Your really pretty STUPID!!! I NEVER said AE was a garbage program... I put forth my opinion on the program and its emulation. Since I tie into a VAX [you know a computer] AE never did the emulation correctly. When someone states that a comm program does emulation, it should be 100%. Not 90% or 95%... I can underst and Morgan jumping on me for my message. He works for United Software.. But You!! How can you make such a STUPID remark about not having a *LEGITIMATE* copy.. You obviously don't have a LEGITIMATE brain... Nuff said... I will not clutter up the NET with this anymore. If someone has anything good/bad to say to me please send me mail... I apologize to anybody that was offended by this.. Joe ps: Proterm at times does have problems copying files.. It can intermittenly addor subtract a block on a file.. SO be careful.. 2.1 should fix this.. I hope..
friedman@porthos.rutgers.edu (Gadi ) (10/05/88)
In article <8810031936.AA05886@crash.cts.com> mdavis@pro-sol.cts.COM (Morgan Davis) writes: > Joe Craparotta writes: > > > Come on Brad... Comparing a ][ (any one of them) to a Mac or Amiga is a > > little ridiculous.. As for AE Pro.. It CANT'T compare with Proterm.. I > > don't know of anyone who EVER got its supposed emulation to work. > > You probably don't know anyone who actually *owns* AE Pro; someone with a > manual. Nevertheless, AE Pro has not been awarded A+ Magazine's Reader's > Choice award three years in a row for "supposed emulation that doesn't work." > It works. > Oh I don't know about that. Ever try the H19 emulation. I could not go into Insert mode, which made it useless for EMACS. I admit the others worked fine. I still use SOFTERM II, which is the best terminal emulator around. It has the fastest scrolling routines, and does not lose chars at 9600bps. It will not run off a Hard Disk though, so I have to keep a floppy around to boot it. But its great if all you need is a terminal. > > --Morgan Davis > United Software Industries, Inc. Gadi -- uucp: {ames, cbosgd, harvard, moss}!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!friedman arpa: FRIEDMAN@ARAMIS.RUTGERS.EDU
bfox@WHEATIES.AI.MIT.EDU (Brian Fox) (10/05/88)
In the past I have complained that this list needed moderating. At that time I gave examples. I was told that due to the large amount of traffic on the net and the limited time of Brint Cooper, moderation was impossible. This I can believe, and actually have no problem with. Since there are occasional interesting items posted to this list, I have not asked to be removed. I am now asking for something else. If a person posts junk to this list, they might be asked to stop. If they do not stop, they might be removed? Calling someone else stupid, or complaining that they do not have a legitimate brain is not the appropriate material for info-apple@brl.mil. Maybe we could start another list, called info-apple-flame@brl.mil. That would solve the problem for me. Please do not place me on such a list. PS: All those in favor of removing undesirable persons please send mail to info-apple-request, since that way only the moderator will know who you are. One last comment directly to Joe: Is it even remotely possible that your Vax isn't using the right description for a vt100? Or perhaps your Vax is running the older software, which expects a certain version of vt100, one with special graphic commands. At any rate, how many systems did you test the emulation on before you began flaming? If you are just going to call me stupid for asking those question, please don't bother sending me mail. Date: Wed, 5 Oct 88 05:28:10 PDT From: Physical T5--Virtual T7 <craparotta%kyoa.DEC@decwrl.dec.com> Rich, Your really pretty STUPID!!! I NEVER said AE was a garbage program... I put forth my opinion on the program and its emulation. Since I tie into a VAX [you know a computer] AE never did the emulation correctly. When someone states that a comm program does emulation, it should be 100%. Not 90% or 95%... I can underst and Morgan jumping on me for my message. He works for United Software.. But You!! How can you make such a STUPID remark about not having a *LEGITIMATE* copy.. You obviously don't have a LEGITIMATE brain... Nuff said... I will not clutter up the NET with this anymore. If someone has anything good/bad to say to me please send me mail... I apologize to anybody that was offended by this.. Joe
akc@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Bruce Cox) (10/05/88)
> >> Come on Brad... Comparing a ][ (any one of them) to a Mac or Amiga is a >> little ridiculous.. As for AE Pro.. It CANT'T compare with Proterm.. I >> don't know of anyone who EVER got its supposed emulation to work. > >You probably don't know anyone who actually *owns* AE Pro; someone with a >manual. Nevertheless, AE Pro has not been awarded A+ Magazine's Reader's >Choice award three years in a row for "supposed emulation that doesn't work." >It works. I once owned AE Pro with the manual (of course) and I was very unhappy with the emulation. The only one I could find that worked semi-well was the Adm3a emulation. And it had it's faults also. >If any customer of United Software has trouble or questions with a product, >they can simply call the toll-free customer support number for help. Anyone >who needs assistance and doesn't call for support is not using their purchase >wisely. I tried this. They told me to do exactly what I was doing with no success. I'm not sure how they were testing there emulations, maybe AEPro to AEPro but they rarely worked connected to a unix machine (with appropriate termcap info) I'm very happy with ProTERM. I think it's an excellent term program. One of the best for the apple line. I've only had a few problems with it's emulation. I wish it had more features such as the ability to edit the term emulators. Overall its still one of the best. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce Cox UUCP: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!akc BITNET: clone@purccvm.bitnet ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
shawn@pnet51.cts.com (Shawn Stanley) (10/07/88)
bfox@WHEATIES.AI.MIT.EDU (Brian Fox) writes: >In the past I have complained that this list needed moderating. At that time >I gave examples. I was told that due to the large amount of traffic on the >net and the limited time of Brint Cooper, moderation was impossible. This I >can believe, and actually have no problem with. Since there are occasional >interesting items posted to this list, I have not asked to be removed. I am >now asking for something else. If a person posts junk to this list, they >might be asked to stop. If they do not stop, they might be removed? I certainly hope it doesn't come to moderation. I think this sort of thing can be handled without resorting to that... UUCP: {rosevax, crash}!orbit!pnet51!shawn INET: shawn@pnet51.cts.com