CS656@OUACCVMB.BITNET (11/19/88)
I am using a //C with a Unidisk 3.5 drive. Does anyone know of a good block editor for this system? Copy//+ won't touch the Unidisk in Bitcopy or Sector edit mode. This seems strange, since it's easy enough to type in the code to access blocks. If I can't find something I'll write a program to do the job. Let me know if you'd like a copy. Bob Church CS656@OUACCVMB
ST702174@BROWNVM.BITNET (Dan Bornstein) (11/20/88)
Beagle Brothers makes (made?) a utility disk for ProDOS in general. Although I forget the name of the disk itself, there is a utility on it called Byte Zap Pro or something like that. My friend (who has it) says that you can change a line somewhere in the beginning of the program (it's a machine-BASIC mix; fast enough) to tell it that the maximum number of blocks on a disk is 1600 rather than 280. Then you can change the slot number of the drive to 5 (since that's where the Unidisk it). That should do the trick. An alternate is the 3.5 package for copyII+. I think it has a 3.5 sector editor , but I'm not sure. -dan
ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Cliff Tuel) (11/20/88)
In article <8811190030.aa22965@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> CS656@OUACCVMB.BITNET writes: >I am using a //C with a Unidisk 3.5 drive. Does anyone know of a good block >editor for this system? Copy//+ won't touch the Unidisk in Bitcopy or Sector Everyone should have a copy of Glen Bredon's collection of disk utilities called ProSel. It is $40, and available only from the author at 521 State Road Princeton, NJ 08540 I have heard raves and raves from Tom Weishaar constantly in Open-Apple. I have nothing to do with either company, of course. -- ___________________________ ------------------------- _ | . ___ | -------------------------- ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.edu (_ |_ l f F | (_) E |__ ucbvax!voder!polyslo!ctuel -------------------------___________________________--------------------------
gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn ) (11/20/88)
In article <8811191322.aa27640@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> ST702174@BROWNVM.BITNET (Dan Bornstein) writes: >An alternate is the 3.5 package for copyII+. I think it has a 3.5 sector editor >, but I'm not sure. Yes, recent versions certainly do. Copy II+ is very nice and has had a very nice upgrade policy. I must have upgraded at least five times by now.
c60c-3aw@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Andy McFadden) (11/20/88)
In article <8811190030.aa22965@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> CS656@OUACCVMB.BITNET writes: >I am using a //C with a Unidisk 3.5 drive. Does anyone know of a good block >editor for this system? Copy//+ won't touch the Unidisk in Bitcopy or Sector >edit mode. This seems strange, since it's easy enough to type in the code to >access blocks. If I can't find something I'll write a program to do the job. >Let me know if you'd like a copy. What version of Copy II+ are you using? I'm assuming you are running the 3.5 drive version... remember that the sector editor and the block editor are two completely different things. Apple (I think; it looked very Apple-ish) made a program called "diskedit.system" or something similar; it did a number of things but searching for strings was oddly omitted. Quality Software (?) was rumored to have updated Bag of Tricks to a ProDOS version. Glen Bredon's ProSEL has a program called Block Warden. This would probably be the best to get; for $40 you get all kinds of stuff. Beagle Brothers, as previously mentioned, made some sort of block editor. >Bob Church CS656@OUACCVMB -- fadden@zen.berkeley.edu [crashed] c60c-3aw@widow.berkeley.edu (Andy McFadden) (Outgoing E-mail has about a 40% chance of successfully reaching you. Feel free to respond through the mail, but I probably can't answer.)
STEIN@UCONNVM.BITNET (Alan Stein) (11/22/88)
Compute!'s Apple Applications Special published a block editor a couple
of year's ago in one of its first issues and sells a disk containing it.
It's called Dr. Disk. I can't recall precisely which issue it's in.
Alan H. Stein Department of Mathematics
The University of Connecticut at Waterbury
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Compu$erve: 71545,1500 Genie: ah.steinrc3h+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Ross Ward Comer) (11/23/88)
Yes, Copy II+ versions 8 and up do have block editing available on the 3.5 inch disk version. However, since the IIc requires the Unidisk, and the Unidisk does not support all the neat copying functions that Central Point likes to use, the 3.5 inch version of Bitcopy won't let IIc owners access any of the Bitcopy functions (such as block editing). This is incredibly stupid. Just because you can't use the bitcopy features doesn't mean you should be restricted from the block editing features. Also, why isn't there a block editing option on the 5.25 inch version? It's a pain to convert sectors to blocks. My other gripe about Copy II+ is that the 5.25 inch version does not support Central Point's memory manager. This means that those of us with a meg of memory and only one disk drive (of each type) must swap the disks over 30 times when doing a bitcopy. Why?!?!? I can understand memory constraints for those without the extra memory, but it would be simple to incorporate a check to see if there is any extra memory installed, and if so, then load up the memory manager. Otherwise, I think Copy II+ is a fantastic program and I highly recommend it. Having also dealt with their support line (about the above problems), I must congratulate them on one of the finest support teams available. On Pro-Byter... It's a fairly useful program. I've recovered many a trashed directory with it. However, it doesn't handle bad blocks gracefully (it just gives up and won't try getting any info off of them). Also, does anyone have the code change to allow it to access all 1600 blocks? I bought it when it first came out several years ago and hadn't heard of the fix until now. Ross Comer BITNET & Internet: rc3h@andrew.cmu.edu
fritzw@pro-starbase.UUCP (Fritz Wonnacott) (11/23/88)
Have you tried using Glen Bredon's BLOCK.WARDEN disk editor, a part of the
ProSel package. I recommend it whole heartedly!
It should work with ANY ProDOS disk device type.
ProSel *SHOULD* be a part of ANYONE's library!!
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(716) 689-8137 login: register8b@cup.portal.com (S Spencer Sun) (11/27/88)
I thought Copy II Plus 8.x DID support memory expansion. Mine copies 5.25's in one pass...but then, I don't have (or know what) Memory Manager (is) -8b@cup.portal.com