[comp.sys.apple] //e with Ace dual interface

ART100@PSUVM.BITNET ("Andy Tefft 862-6728", 814) (12/06/88)

The only serial interface I have for my //e is a Franklin Ace dual interface
that I got for free a while back. Last year when I got my modem the
first thing I did was use a borrowed copy of ASCII Express (very old)
to download Kermit for my //c. At that time I tried ASCII Express on the //e
and it seemed to work ok. Since that time I've downloaded several term
programs, namely z-link, atp, and tic. Unfortunately none of these
seem to work on the //e (it's only a 64K, so z-link and tic are immediately
out of the question). ASCII Express won't do me any good, because
I need vt100 emulation, which this old version didn't have.

Any suggestions on getting kermit or atp to work on my //e with that
interface? I only need something for 3 weeks over Christmas break,
so I'm not going to buy anything. It only needs screen vt100 emulation
and ability to send the cursor-key escapes (esc ] A, etc.). I have
the manual for the card, but it doesn't mention interrupts (which
i realize might be at least part of the problem), I've only tried
the ssc driver, because I didn't have the disk with the other drivers
with me at the time.

Thanks!

Andy
ART100@PSUVM.BITNET or a1t@ecl.psu.edu

SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (12/06/88)

>The only serial interface I have for my //e is a Franklin Ace dual interface

>...ASCII Express won't do me any good, because I need vt100 emulation...
>
>Any suggestions on getting kermit or atp to work on my //e with that
>interface? I only need something for 3 weeks over Christmas break,
>so I'm not going to buy anything. It only needs screen vt100 emulation
>and ability to send the cursor-key escapes (esc ] A, etc.). I have
>the manual for the card, but it doesn't mention interrupts (which
>i realize might be at least part of the problem), I've only tried
>the ssc driver, because I didn't have the disk with the other drivers
>with me at the time.

1) which serial driver are you using with ASCII Express (and are you
   experiencing character loss)?  ASCII Express's Super Serial driver
   will work with or without interrupts, but if interrupts aren't
   enabled, characters get lost.

2) which version of Kermit have you?  The Super Serial driver in versions
   earlier than 3.85 is known to have difficulty with some SSC clones.

3) have you got Kermit working on your //c so you can download 3.85?

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matthew@sunpix.UUCP ( Sun NCAA) (12/06/88)

I'm not familiar with the Franklin Ace dual interface, but if its chips have
'6850' vice '6551' markings, your problem is trying to use the card as a Super
Serial Card (SSC). It isn't. Heres a little bit of history:

	Before Apple came out with the Super Serial Card, it had produced two
other serial cards. 

	The first was kind of a hack. Since Apple kind of had the the motto 
"If it can be done in software, don't do it in hardware", the first serial card 
was a few TTL chips strung together, All the serial timing was done
by the CPU.

	The second serial card was contained a '6850 ACIA (Asyncronous 
Communications Interface Adapter)'.  Part of the serial interface work was off
loaded to dedicated hardware, but the board design limited itself to speeds of
110 and 300bps.  Itwas also designed with only 256 bytes of onboard ROM. Not
much room for code.

	I'm willing to be your Franklin Ace dual interface is Communications
card compatible, and not Super Serial Card compatible. Try setting your 
software up to work with a Communications card. It should work then.

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