smw@whuts.ATT.COM (WINCKLHOFER) (02/02/89)
I am having trouble getting Kermit 3.85 to work under ProDOS and I would appreciate some help. The Kermit works fine under DOS 3.3 so I copied it with Copy II plus to a ProDOS disk (V. 1.1.1). It still run properly but it crashes when I attempt to RECEIVE a file from a host. Thanks Scott --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Wincklhofer AT&T Bell Laboratories Whippany (201) 386-5094 whuts!smw
SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (02/04/89)
>I am having trouble getting Kermit 3.85 to work under ProDOS and I would >appreciate some help. The Kermit works fine under DOS 3.3 so I copied it >with Copy II plus to a ProDOS disk (V. 1.1.1). It still run properly but >it crashes when I attempt to RECEIVE a file from a host. As sometimes happens with copies (usually when you've BSAVE'd the DOS version from a copy that's been BRUN instead of BLOAD'd, but I suppose other circumstances are possible) it appears your ProDOS version isn't setting the ProDOS prefix to a volume you have on line (try SHOW PREFIX at the Kermit-65> prompt to confirm). *solution* The easiest way is edit the KERMIT.INIT file and add a SET PREFIX /directory statement (whatever directory or subdirectory you'd like RECEIVED files to go into). Another method is BRUN KERMIT385 and SET PREFIX /directory at the Kermit-65> prompt, then EXIT (to BASIC) and BSAVE KERMIT385,A$2000,L$6E00 (that'll embed the PREFIX in your BIN file and you won't have to bother with it again). Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90] Prof. of Marketing Sewall@UConnVM.BITNET Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu [INTERNET] U of Connecticut {psuvax1 or mcvax }!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP] -+- I don't speak for my employer, though I frequently wish that I could (subject to change without notice; void where prohibited) According to the American Facsimile Association, more than half the calls from Japan to the U.S. are fax calls. FAX it to me at: 1-203-486-5246
SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (02/05/89)
>Another method is BRUN KERMIT385 and SET PREFIX /directory at the >Kermit-65> prompt, then EXIT (to BASIC) and BSAVE KERMIT385,A$2000,L$6E00 >(that'll embed the PREFIX in your BIN file and you won't have to bother >with it again). Oops!! Typo'd again (at least I make the same mistake consistently :-) As Phil Albro pointed out, that should be BSAVE KERMIT385,A$1000,L$6E00 Phil's memory may be better than mine (although I DID, somewhat to my surprise, pass the memory test on 20/20 last night), but I think even earlier versions of Kermit-65 (3.75, 3.79, 3.80, etc.) also start at A$1000... A$2000 is what, where SYS files start (I'm obsolescent and still don't use ProDOS much)? Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90] Prof. of Marketing Sewall@UConnVM.BITNET Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu [INTERNET] U of Connecticut {psuvax1 or mcvax }!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP] -+- I don't speak for my employer, though I frequently wish that I could (subject to change without notice; void where prohibited) According to the American Facsimile Association, more than half the calls from Japan to the U.S. are fax calls. FAX it to me at: 1-203-486-5246
ALBRO@NIEHS.BITNET (02/05/89)
Scott Wincklhofer <whuts!smu> is having trouble with Kermit 3.85 under ProDOS 1.1.1. The problem may be that 1.1.1 disables interupts. If you replace it with ProDOS 1.4 or later, you shouldn't have this problem of hanging.
ALBRO@NIEHS.BITNET (02/05/89)
Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET> suggests that my memory may be better that his because I knew that Kermits now start at $1000. Nope, my memory is starting to leak like a sieve. Just before reading your message I had BLOADed Kermit 3.85 (no address given), and PEEKed DOS at 43634/43635 (ProDOS at 48855/48856) to find out where it had Bloaded. Goes with the old definition: "a dummy is someone who doesn't know what you just learned." -Phil Albro-
shawn@pnet51.cts.com (Shawn Stanley) (02/07/89)
smw@whuts.ATT.COM (WINCKLHOFER) writes: >I am having trouble getting Kermit 3.85 to work under ProDOS and I would >appreciate some help. The Kermit works fine under DOS 3.3 so I copied it >with Copy II plus to a ProDOS disk (V. 1.1.1). It still run properly but >it crashes when I attempt to RECEIVE a file from a host. Oh my. Kermit is an assembly language program, correct? The problem is that you can't just copy a compiled/assembled program from DOS 3.3 over to ProDOS since the file I/O routines are completely different. It might look fine on the screen and such, but that's where the similarity ends. I believe you'll have to procure a ProDOS version of Kermit 3.85. UUCP: {uunet!rosevax, amdahl!bungia, chinet, killer}!orbit!pnet51!shawn INET: shawn@pnet51.cts.com
blake@pnet51.cts.com (R. Blake Von Haden) (02/08/89)
<try this you ravenous line eater>
Shawn is correct about most assembly language programs being either
DOS 3.3 or ProDOS specific, but Kermit 3.xx is written with interfaces
to both DOS 3.3 and ProDOS built in. It is a marvel of DOS flexibility.
So, Kermit 3.xx works with DOS 3.3 and ProDOS, and you can move them
from one to another with the appropriate copy programs. I use Copy II+
and it works just fine.
Blake Von Haden UUCP: {rosevax, crash}!orbit!pnet51!blake | nobody's
St. Paul, MN ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!blake@nosc.mil | responsible
INET: blake@pnet51.cts.com ! anymore.RXBROWN@UALR.BITNET ("MR.FANTASTIC") (02/10/89)
>The problem is that you can't just copy a compiled/assembled program from >dos 3.3 over to ProDos since...... There is no problem with kermit. All you have to do is Exec it under Dos 3.3 then copy it to a Prodos disk. Now when you use Prodos you have to make sure you stay within Prodos's constraints. Like your file name can't be more than 14 characters long, your file names can't start with numbers, or special characters. Other little things like that, but those were the major ones. Robert